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coinnut2coinnut2 Posts: 15
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Hi everyone,
I have a picture here of a coin that belongs to a freind of mine......he has no knowledge of the coin and wanted to know what it was........I tried looking in the Krauss books back to 1800 and so far no luck unless I missed something.........if anyone has any ideas please let me know........the coin is approximatly the same size as a US Morgan in diameter but thinner.......and appears to be made of a silver type metal but could be a fake or something other than metal........it has no date I could see nor any readable words in the legends.......
http://image38.webshots.com/38/6/70/46/2182670460044985032qaMPKz_ph.jpg
http://image40.webshots.com/41/7/54/73/2697754730044985032lWxjmb_ph.jpg

Any help is most appreciated.......
You will do just fine as long as your heart and your wallet do not end up in the same pocket.
Coinnut2

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  • StorkStork Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have no idea.

  • coinnut2coinnut2 Posts: 15
    Hmmm, linky not working.......I will try again.....

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    You will do just fine as long as your heart and your wallet do not end up in the same pocket.
    Coinnut2
  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a cast counterfeit Spanish 8 Reales.

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  • coinnut2coinnut2 Posts: 15
    Thanks for posting the pics for me Stork.....much obliged........the reverse I guess looks similar to persian design maybe???? dunno
    You will do just fine as long as your heart and your wallet do not end up in the same pocket.
    Coinnut2
  • coinnut2coinnut2 Posts: 15
    Spanish???????.........really?.........It should be in the 1800-1901 Krauss no?.........Hmmm I looked at all of those I thought.......could it be earlier??
    You will do just fine as long as your heart and your wallet do not end up in the same pocket.
    Coinnut2
  • STLNATSSTLNATS Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a cast counterfeit Spanish 8 Reales

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    I'm not sure about the 8R but definitely some sort of spanish design.

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  • coinnut2coinnut2 Posts: 15
    Well you guys are the experts....thanks for the info........ok now for my next question.........the coin has been in his family along time......not sure as to exactly how long but he said along time...........would there have been counterfiets made on a silver coin so long ago ???.........the value could not have been much....... what would have been the incentive???.........possibly a tourist trinket of some type?????
    You will do just fine as long as your heart and your wallet do not end up in the same pocket.
    Coinnut2
  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just to clarify: the coin's design is based on the silver 8 reales (or fractions thereof) of the early 1600's - the famous "cob-style" pirate pieces of eight of the Spainsh mints in Mexico and Peru. Krause Mexico KM#32 shows a very similar picture (CV $60 to $120 for an undated example).

    The gold coins were similar, except the cross arms had a T shape at the ends and had fleur-de-lys instad of lions-and-castles inside the cross.

    Would they be copied? Sure. Any tourist place with a "pirate theme" might sell or give these away to visitors. Perhaps they might even bury a bunch of them so the tourists can "find pirate treasure of their own".

    It might even be a contemporary copy, dating from the 1600s or 1700s. 8 reales (or a "dollar", if you prefer) was a lot of money back then.
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