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Has anyone taken the ANA Grading Course? Is it worth the money?

I am thinking of taking the ANA Grading Course (Correspondence Course). Is it worth the $300.00? Or, can I do the same research on my own? Will it help?
Joe
CONECA #N-3446

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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    The mini seminar grading course is absolutely, 100% worth every cent. Although you may leave with a bit of overconfidence. image The correspondence course, though, I do not think will be as effective. I've seen most of the grading materials involved, though I have not taken the course. I think nothing can match the value of having actual professional graders walk you through their grading process personally.
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    I know they're holding a class in NJ in a month or so if that helps. Im looking very much forward to that.
    I friends think Im nuts to burn two vacation days on it, but what the heck, I think it will be fun and educational.

    Seems the live interaction will be the most beneficial..
  • <<I know they're holding a class in NJ in a month or so if that helps.>>

    Do you have info on the NJ class? I'm in the southern part of the state. I'd love to go, if it's anywhere near me.
    Joe
    CONECA #N-3446
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I don't know how a correspondence course can teach grading of MS coins. But the classroom version gets my highest recommendation.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    this isn't the easiest place to get to during rush hour (what part of NJ is?!?), but at least it's in the state image

    from the money.org site:



    Upcoming seminars include Fundamentals of Grading United States Coins in conjunction with the 2006 GSNA Convention in Somerset, New Jersey, May 16-17, 2006. Click here for more information and registration form.


    Education Home Page

    Link to May 16-17 Application

    If you go, ill see you there, godwilling. I look exactly like my Avatar.
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    The classroom course is fantastic.
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • Somerset is not far from me. Traffic can be heavy during rush hour, but you have easy highway access from the north or south by interstate 287.
    Collecting cleaned, scratched, scraped, AT and ugly POS coins for over 2 years now!
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I want to take that summer course in Colorado.

    Then, I start thinking....

    Ownership adds a point
    NGC holders subtract a point
    PCGS scores a point.

    So, if I spend a couple grand going to the summer thing in Colorado, I could just as well save my eyes, time and money and submit several coins to PCGS, thus scoring the right grade and cutting out all the middle men.

    What say you ? Think about it. Here is a company that teaches the ins and outs of grading and cannot get it at the same grade as their counterpart. So, that leaves me more confused than before I read your thread. Thanks a lot image ...and to top it off, PCGS on many occasions is a point over what I thought. So, here we are, selling opinions.
    Mine are cheap image

    I'm gettin' too old for this stuff.
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭

    For someone who is learning, better to take a course and be off by a single point than 3.

    For the upper eschelon (sp?) collector, subtleties are what it's all about I guess. When it comes down to it, you're looking at a coin and arguing it's merits, it's better to have a common frame of reference which this would probably provide.
  • VeepVeep Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭
    I took it a few years ago in connection with the Chicago ANA. It was easily worth the $300. The presentations were followed by hands on grading of a variety of coins and then seeing problem coins in-person. This method made the format very effective. Then, to have dialog with Mark Salzberg, Brian Sillman, and Skip Fazzari at my particular seminar was a rare opportunity.

    But, don't think that taking the class will make you an expert. You need to continue to look at lots of coins and submit some to have your knowledge validated. Then, you'll have the confidence to step-up and spend more than others are willing to in order to cherrypick items from under their noses. My diligence in learning how to properly grade has led to numerous auction purchases, in the presence of other dealers, that have allowed me to make some nice profits. I am far from expert, and still make occasional mistakes, but the ANA course laid a good fundation for my education.
    "Let me tell ya Bud, you can buy junk anytime!"
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For someone who is learning, better to take a course and be off by a single point than 3.

    For the upper eschelon (sp?) collector, subtleties are what it's all about I guess. When it comes down to it, you're looking at a coin and arguing it's merits, it's better to have a common frame of reference which this would probably provide. >>



    and that is the other side of the coin image
    well said, hyperion
  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    I have taken the correspondance course and the CS advanced grading class multiple times. The correspondance course is a good introduction but in no way substitutes for a hand on course. I recommend strongly that anyone who is not a true expert take a hands on course. The instructors are the ones that will or have graded your TPGed coins. The instructors are terrific and the course is worth every bit of the fees charged. In the end you may not be a world class gradder but you will know where you stand in the field. You will also find that you are sitting next to many of the pocket (E-mail dealers) that you meet on this forum and recognize that there is a big spectrum in skills. Skill is a prerequisite to success as a collector or dealer. Lastly, it is just great fun ( you make new friends and renew old aquaitances) and always somewhat humbling experience. If you want a detailed view of the nature of the beast read the posts by Kranky a few years ago on the topic.
    Trime
  • KurtHornKurtHorn Posts: 1,382
    I have taken both Grading and Advanced Grading and Problem Coin Detection at the summer seminars in Colorado Springs. They were both excellent courses. Although problem coin detection was not much different than what I got in basic grading.

    They have more than paid for themselves in the money I have made on spotting under graded coins, accurately graded coins in third tier slabs (which I then cracked and submitted to PCGS or NGC), and the money saved by not sending coins that weren't worthy of slabbing in the first place.
    "Don't bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself." - William Faulkner
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  • I believe there are 2 ANA grading correspondence courses: Grading Coins Today and Grading Mint State US Coins. You can take them one at a time for more like $40 each not $300, or enroll in the numismatic diploma program which includes 5 courses. Try checking the ANA site for more info.

    My coin club has a study group currently working through the Grading MS Coins course. We read the course book at home then meet monthly to discuss and compare examples of what's covered in the book. The members have enjoyed it and are getting a lot out of it.

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