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Does PCGS slab finger-printed coin?

drddmdrddm Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
I just bought a coin from a VERY reputable dealer (who I won't mention by name out of respect) and found out it has big finger-print on the obverse field. I noticed it when I rotated it just right under the light and using a 5X glass. I am returning the coin to this dealer, of course, but was curious if anyone knows if PCGS slabs coins with fingerprints.

Thanks

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Yes, they do. No reason not to.

    Russ, NCNE
  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ,

    What happens to that finger print over time? Does it become darker or does something else happen?
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you ask them nicely, they will even give you a nice new fingerprintimage
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What happens to that finger print over time? Does it become darker or does something else happen? >>



    Sometimes a fingerprint can end up etching the surfaces of a coin, or become darker and uglier. Other times, though, a print can be stable for many years and remain unchanged. Just depends on how contaminated the finger and/or the surfaces of the coin were at the time it happened.

    Russ, NCNE
  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can anyone think of a good reason to keep a finger printed coin (key date, common, or otherwise)?
  • all the time! if you ask them nicely they will thumbprint the obverse and forefinger the reverseimage or vice versaimageimage
    steve

    myCCset
  • Just out of curiosity, was it a Quarter? There have been a couple posts on this Quarter that is certified by PCGS....(PR70 if I remember correctly) that has a huge, very distinct thumb print on it. Whenever someone buys it, they complain and sell it to someone else. Anyway, just curious.
    Joshua P. Merchant
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  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, this is not a Quarter. It's a Lib Nickel.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>all the time! if you ask them nicely they will thumbprint the obverse and forefinger the reverse or vice versa >>



    If you ask REAL nicely, you can get the middle finger.

    Russ, NCNE
  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can anyone think of a reason to keep a fingerprinted coin and am I making the right decision in returning it?
  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd return it. Fingerprints have a negative on eye-appeal but they can still be slabbed.
  • It really depends what your purpose for buying it was. Is it because you like that certain style coin? Then return it. If you bought it for investment purposes......its in a PCGS holder, isnt it guaranteed? Actually let me reitterate..return it, if you go to sell it later it might be a hastle to get rid of, or you might not get full price. If you got a smoking deal keep it..if not return it. I think I am finished now.....image
    Joshua P. Merchant
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    It all depends on your personal preferences- some collectors absolutely hate fingerprints, and will never look at any coin with fingerprint action. So, if you acquire a print for your collection, be mindful that it's resale value will have some limits. I have one morgan toner that has significant prints on the obverse, and I think it looks pretty cool- it's my "tiger striped" toner.... image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • orieorie Posts: 998
    I have a top pop MS66 PCGS with a finger print. My son who knows nothing about coins was looking thru my coins and noticed it. I was impressed!!
  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720
    I swear, when I read the title of this thread I thought it said; "Does PCGS fingerprint coins they slab?"

    The obvious answer to both your question and my dsylexic reading is yes, yes they do. image
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    According to several past threads, PCGS creates finger-printed coins.




    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Yes. Yes, they do.

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    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Most definitely. However, the finger-print can severely hurt the grade.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • The grease and salts of a print can be be stablized with a Ph neutal solution after a solvent removes anything else.

    Yes they can be down graded--On the other hand if it's pretty and original, you can sometimes get a real technical gem quite cheaply below the big price jump. Depends on how noticable print looks.image
    morgannut2
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    I've seen many, many in slabs.
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • .......a finger print at one time may have effected the grade - but nowdays

    i think it has very little bearing

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