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Cheerios Sacky on eBay - NO Bids ?

FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
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Could it be because the packaging looks opened? Why would someone even try to sell something like this?

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  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    That's the best picture I've seen yet that shows the obverse marker..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!image
    ......Larry........image
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    Is he allowed to copy the NGC article in its entirety for his auction? Maybe legal@ngccoins.com are the ones who should be looking at this auction.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If my funds were available, I'd take it after discussing it behind the scenes. But, I am tapped out at the moment..... and I think I'll channel my efforts toward a hoard of wisconsin leaf errors instead.

    The last one I bid on I think I bid 3500 and didn't make the reserve. It was MS68 and not attributed , but in a PCGS slab. To die for image....

    I need a rich uncle !......normal obverse
    image
    Cheerios Sac obverse with die marker
    image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Note that in his other auctions he accepts PayPal, but strangely that is not an option for this one. I asked him for a large image of the reverse of the Sac. I predict a response of "Sorry, the batteries in my camera are dead." image

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Well, he responded by referring me to the images he kyped from NGC.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, he responded by referring me to the images he kyped from NGC.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    You thinkin' hoax, Russ ? image... yikes !


    Oooops... well disregard my statement earlier then. Like I did say, I'd find out behind the scenes. Thanks for that, Russ image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You thinkin' hoax, Russ ? >>



    Yes, I think it's a scam.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • KaelasdadKaelasdad Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    LOL, you guys smell more scams...potentially. image I think there were some that thought I was scamming too, when I put mine up for sale, although some forum members were very positive in their comments and questions.

    Personally, I like the addition of all the information, I prefer having it all out there, instead of having to take one persons word on potential rarity.

    And, Russ, how would you have answered the question you posed any better? Would you have opened the pack, said, there it is, now let me tape it shut for our other bidders?

    I commend Gemineye for seeing the obverse die marker, I can barely see the one on mine when Im holding it in my hand. If you notice right above the payment options, the seller does mention paying with Paypal.

    I am kind of with 2Sides, I am tapped out because the girls bought that horse with my bonus check. I look at coins now with wistful eyes, knowing I have to wait, wait wait, while they ride ,ride ride.

    I dont know if this is a scam, but it isnt a Blue Moon auction, thats a plus. That one picture might just be the angle of the flash, but it still looks unopened, because even if the plastic was completely peeled off the card, the coins would be in a sealed mint plastic compartment--I think we figured that out last time we discussed how these things were packaged.

    Just my "2cents" as well

    Russ
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you notice right above the payment options, the seller does mention paying with Paypal. >>





    << <i>PAY WITH REGULAR PAYMENT THROUGH PAYPAL. >>



    Translation: Cash only, no credit cards (aka no protection). In all his other auctions PayPal is listed as a direct payment option with no mention of "regular payment". Why the change for this auction? It wouldn't be the fees because if he has a personal account (no fees) he can't accept a payment this large, and if he has a premiere account the fees are charged regardless of funding source.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • KaelasdadKaelasdad Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    I ll ask him.

    same thing happened to me in a recent auction, I didnt have a Paypal, but I added it. Hate paying the extra fees but it got me some bidders. I am selling off all my old baseball and hockey cards to keep hay in that dang horse.

    Russ
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    When these coins get to be Big money it's a tough decision to buy on the bay................JMO.........................
    ......Larry........image
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,413 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>????


    Could it be because the packaging looks opened? Why would someone even try to sell something like this? >>



    Looks OK to me.
    Nice writeup. Even pictures one of my two coins.
    ;-)
    Tom D.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • MerchMerch Posts: 169


    << <i>Note that in his other auctions he accepts PayPal, but strangely that is not an option for this one. I asked him for a large image of the reverse of the Sac. I predict a response of "Sorry, the batteries in my camera are dead." image

    Russ, NCNE >>




    I would expect the response of "Sure let me break this out of its packaging so i can photograph the reverse of it" or even "Sure just tell me how to flip it over without opening the packaging" As for the paypal payment, I sold my car on ebay via paypal....I wish I didnt, they took $400 bucks in fees.
    Joshua P. Merchant
    image
  • KaelasdadKaelasdad Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    Response to my question of exactly what does he take when it comes to paypal:

    "a great question, thanks! for asking. Yes, I am able to accept a transfer payment through PayPal, using your personal checking account or a credit card for your convenience. Also, other forms of payment are, personal check and/or money order/cashier's check"

    So Russ, get your credit card out--image

    Russ
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TwoSides:

    I bought that PCGS MS68 and felt alot better seeing the coin in person before writing the check. Not so sure about this one, especially paying for it up front.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • KaelasdadKaelasdad Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    Lakesammmam--would you consider trying to cross that to NGC for a Pedigree or prefer keeping it in the PCGS slab? A nice pedigree could be the "PCGS didnt think this was a totally rare and interesting coin and no better than a regular ole Sac Specimen"
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is what it is. I'm happy the way it is. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • majorbigtimemajorbigtime Posts: 2,937 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>You thinkin' hoax, Russ ? >>



    Yes, I think it's a scam.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Sure it's not "a legitimate estate auction" as you described the biggest scam in Ebay history?
  • majorbigtimemajorbigtime Posts: 2,937 ✭


    << <i>LOL, you guys smell more scams...potentially. image

    And, Russ, how would you have answered the question you posed any better? Would you have opened the pack, said, there it is, now let me tape it shut for our other bidders?

    the seller does mention paying with Paypal.

    Just my "2cents" as well

    >>





    O'mygosh. Are you suggesting that NCNE is not always right?

    That's blasphemy ("profane or contemptious verbiage concerning God or anything held as divine")!!!!
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    More days to go..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....................image
    ......Larry........image
  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    2000-P CHEERIOS SACAGAWEA DOLLAR

    Ended: Mar-22-06 22:33:46 PST

    Winning bid: US $4,605.55


    Guess people want these after all. I didn't think it was going to sell.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    another cheerios.....ack uh juh we uh

    As for the other comments.... It is good to be suspect, as Russ ascribes to. There are tons of rip-off artists in the world.
    I guess it isn't fair to ask what you paid for that 68... but I suspect market value for it, unattributed but being what it is, would put you in a beautiful position. I doubt very much that mine will ever see that high of a grade (knowing the coins I've sent to PCGS I'd say 66 at best if it comes from my addressimage), but I congratulate you and feel lucky to have even found out where that one went.


    Edit to update :
    Heritage auction for MS 67 in PCGS plastic at the 2007 ANA...
    Over eleven grand including the juice image
  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭

    Just an FYI, I asked the above ebay seller how he was able to aquire two of these Sac's and didn't get an answer.

    Don't know if it means anything, just letting you know.

  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    Maybe if i hit Lotto ....Then I'll spring for the big box of Cheerios.....................image
    ......Larry........image
  • MajorDutyMajorDuty Posts: 1,998
    Slightly off topic but, it's not just the tail feathers that have the extra feather detail. The finger feathers on the wings also have those more detailed veins. They are there in the standard issue pattern, but the they look much more pronounced on the Cheerios Sacs. At least on nice blown-up photograph they are really bold. I didn't notice that before.
    image
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    Sorry if I missed it. How many of those are there estimated to have been made? 10k?
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭
    5,500

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