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1985 Topps Mark McGwire BGS 10

I've been watching the 1985 Topps Mark McGwire since the days where it once sold
for $6,000.00 and now I see this, a 1985 Topps Mark McGwire BGS 10. Here is the
link:

1985 Topps Mark McGwire BGS 10

Is it me or does this card appear no better than perhaps a PSA 9 or maybe PSA 10?
Of course, it could be the poor quality of the scan. Accordingly, to the Population Report,
there is only one BGS 10. Beckett has graded 11,764 McGwire rookies and I would
imagine PSA has graded over 40,000 (POP help?).

I wish I still had that scan of the SGC 100 to use as a comparison. Curious, the card
next to it has 10 subgrades for Centering, Edges and Corners, but an 8.5 for surface.
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

/s/ JackWESQ

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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>I've been watching the 1985 Topps Mark McGwire since the days where it once sold
    for $6,000.00 and now I see this, a 1985 Topps Mark McGwire BGS 10. Here is the
    link:

    1985 Topps Mark McGwire BGS 10

    Is it me or does this card appear no better than perhaps a PSA 9 or maybe PSA 10?
    Of course, it could be the poor quality of the scan. Accordingly, to the Population Report,
    there is only one BGS 10. Beckett has graded 11,764 McGwire rookies and I would
    imagine PSA has graded over 40,000 (POP help?).

    I wish I still had that scan of the SGC 100 to use as a comparison. Curious, the card
    next to it has 10 subgrades for Centering, Edges and Corners, but an 8.5 for surface.
    Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

    /s/ JackWESQ >>




    The card next to it is probably a sheet cut. Re: the hammer price for the BGS 10 (whatever it ends up being), P.T. Barnum has a quote about the kind of guys who bid heavy on these slabs...
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    Well if the Ripken rookie he's selling represents the standard for a psa 10...

    Ripken rookie
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    Over priced and over valued. The days of this card being highly sought after are long gone in my opinion.
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I've been watching the 1985 Topps Mark McGwire since the days where it once sold
    for $6,000.00 and now I see this, a 1985 Topps Mark McGwire BGS 10. Here is the
    link:

    1985 Topps Mark McGwire BGS 10

    Is it me or does this card appear no better than perhaps a PSA 9 or maybe PSA 10?
    Of course, it could be the poor quality of the scan. Accordingly, to the Population Report,
    there is only one BGS 10. Beckett has graded 11,764 McGwire rookies and I would
    imagine PSA has graded over 40,000 (POP help?).

    I wish I still had that scan of the SGC 100 to use as a comparison. Curious, the card
    next to it has 10 subgrades for Centering, Edges and Corners, but an 8.5 for surface.
    Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

    /s/ JackWESQ >>




    The card next to it is probably a sheet cut. Re: the hammer price for the BGS 10 (whatever it ends up being), P.T. Barnum has a quote about the kind of guys who bid heavy on these slabs... >>






    Will you guys give me a break ???? You make a stupid and ridiculous claim without even seeing the card that because it received a high grade from Beckett "it's probably sheet cut". How the hell do you know?? Grow up and stop making blank stupid statements. Beckett, PSA, SGC and GAI are all good grading companies. Just leave it at that and keep it real. Chaz
  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Oh look, Chaz is back...

    The card was almost certainly sheet cut. Interesting the sellers name is PSAstock and PSA won't grade sheet cut cards so these (all 85 Topps) ended up as 9.5's in Beckett holders.

    Must just be a conspiracy theory eh Chaz?
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Will you guys give me a break ???? You make a stupid and ridiculous claim without even seeing the card that because it received a high grade from Beckett "it's probably sheet cut". How the hell do you know?? Grow up and stop making blank stupid statements. Beckett, PSA, SGC and GAI are all good grading companies. Just leave it at that and keep it real. Chaz >>

    Chaz, I think I speak for the rest of the board members here when I say you need to tone it down a bit. Just because you are trying to make a point doesnt mean you have to attack the other person and call their opinions stupid or ridiculous. It seems that the majority of your posts are aimed at insulting people and causing problems. I am pretty tired of reading your garbage comments. Too bad this isnt survivor because if it was you would have been long gone.
  • I get tired of reading people comments crying about a card some one has for sale that is a 10 that they feel should be no more than a 9. Stop being jealous and quite whinning we would all take a high profile card in a ten holder. Remember if you want to bitc$ how about taking it out on PSA not the seller. Every other thread has comments like this in them. WHINNY BITCE$$
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Will you guys give me a break ???? You make a stupid and ridiculous claim without even seeing the card that because it received a high grade from Beckett "it's probably sheet cut". How the hell do you know?? Grow up and stop making blank stupid statements. Beckett, PSA, SGC and GAI are all good grading companies. Just leave it at that and keep it real. Chaz >>

    Chaz, I think I speak for the rest of the board members here when I say you need to tone it down a bit. Just because you are trying to make a point doesnt mean you have to attack the other person and call their opinions stupid or ridiculous. It seems that the majority of your posts are aimed at insulting people and causing problems. I am pretty tired of reading your garbage comments. Too bad this isnt survivor because if it was you would have been long gone. >>



    Hey Lawnmowerman - you can sling it pretty good yourself boy. Garbage comments ??? What do call that? Just speak the truth and keep it real. Don't y'all get tired of hearing and reading the same crap all the time about sheet cut this and that and they grade trimmed cards etc..... I submitted a trimmed 59 Koufax to both GAI and Beckett and guess what ???? Both pregrades at the Fort Washington show came back trimmed. JUST KEEP IT REAL AND STOP WITH ALL THE BS !!!!!!! chaz
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I get tired of reading people comments crying about a card some one has for sale that is a 10 that they feel should be no more than a 9. Stop being jealous and quite whinning we would all take a high profile card in a ten holder. Remember if you want to bitc$ how about taking it out on PSA not the seller. Every other thread has comments like this in them. WHINNY BITCE$$ >>





    OBVIOUSLY, I AM NOT ALONE !!!!!! CHAZ
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh look, Chaz is back...

    The card was almost certainly sheet cut. Interesting the sellers name is PSAstock and PSA won't grade sheet cut cards so these (all 85 Topps) ended up as 9.5's in Beckett holders.

    Must just be a conspiracy theory eh Chaz? >>





    GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK !!!!!! Chaz
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Will you guys give me a break ???? You make a stupid and ridiculous claim without even seeing the card that because it received a high grade from Beckett "it's probably sheet cut". How the hell do you know?? Grow up and stop making blank stupid statements. Beckett, PSA, SGC and GAI are all good grading companies. Just leave it at that and keep it real. Chaz >>

    Chaz, I think I speak for the rest of the board members here when I say you need to tone it down a bit. Just because you are trying to make a point doesnt mean you have to attack the other person and call their opinions stupid or ridiculous. It seems that the majority of your posts are aimed at insulting people and causing problems. I am pretty tired of reading your garbage comments. Too bad this isnt survivor because if it was you would have been long gone. >>



    Hey Lawnmowerman - you can sling it pretty good yourself boy. Garbage comments ??? What do call that? Just speak the truth and keep it real. Don't y'all get tired of hearing and reading the same crap all the time about sheet cut this and that and they grade trimmed cards etc..... I submitted a trimmed 59 Koufax to both GAI and Beckett and guess what ???? Both pregrades at the Fort Washington show came back trimmed. JUST KEEP IT REAL AND STOP WITH ALL THE BS !!!!!!! chaz >>

    Chaz, I do agree with you about speaking the truth.
  • jad22jad22 Posts: 535 ✭✭
    I think it is hard to tell much from the scan. I would ask for a better one.
  • jad22jad22 Posts: 535 ✭✭
    really annoying that they would not take the time to put one individual scan for this item. I am sick of seeing the scan of the card clusters.
  • I dont care how good your scanner is, it is still a scan!!!! Unless you have the card in your hands then you can not make a judgment call, and doing so shows your intelligence. Be happy for the guy and maybe next time you get the benefit of the doubt.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    the reason a sheet cut is suspected is because of the 8.5 surface subgrade..

    the scan on the bgs 10 mcgwire is bad.. it's makes it look kinda wavy.. but it's looks like a good card..

    the 1982 donruss ripken psa 10 is a joke.. i dont care what the pixel count is, no way should that card be a 10..

    and chaz is an idiot..
    ·p_A·
  • jad22jad22 Posts: 535 ✭✭
    daneyb, shut your trap you piece of garbage. it is a lousy scan, you jerk.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Will you guys give me a break ???? You make a stupid and ridiculous claim without even seeing the card that because it received a high grade from Beckett "it's probably sheet cut". How the hell do you know?? Grow up and stop making blank stupid statements. Beckett, PSA, SGC and GAI are all good grading companies. Just leave it at that and keep it real. Chaz >>

    Chaz, I think I speak for the rest of the board members here when I say you need to tone it down a bit. Just because you are trying to make a point doesnt mean you have to attack the other person and call their opinions stupid or ridiculous. It seems that the majority of your posts are aimed at insulting people and causing problems. I am pretty tired of reading your garbage comments. Too bad this isnt survivor because if it was you would have been long gone. >>



    Hey Lawnmowerman - you can sling it pretty good yourself boy. Garbage comments ??? What do call that? Just speak the truth and keep it real. Don't y'all get tired of hearing and reading the same crap all the time about sheet cut this and that and they grade trimmed cards etc..... I submitted a trimmed 59 Koufax to both GAI and Beckett and guess what ???? Both pregrades at the Fort Washington show came back trimmed. JUST KEEP IT REAL AND STOP WITH ALL THE BS !!!!!!! chaz >>

    Chaz, I do agree with you about speaking the truth. >>



    Thanks Lawnmower, I appreciate it. I apologize for getting out of hand with the comments but I just get so tired of seeing the same stuff all the time. Let's face it, the 4 grading companies I mentioned are all good and they all try. I've met the people at Beckett, PSA, GAI and SGC - all good people and all try their best and they put out a quality product, that's all I have to say. Chaz

    PS: When I submitted the 59 Koufax (I knew it was trimmed) to both GAI and Beckett graders, Mike Baker (GAI) showed me where it was trimmed (factory blade miscut) and then I took it over to Beckett and Andy Broome showed me the same thing. So I contacted the seller and sent it back to him and he refunded my money, no questions asked.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    Hi Chaz--

    It's OK to be either a) dumb, or b) loud, but being both really turns people off.

    Do you have any idea why I said the BGS 10 McGwire was sheet cut? I'll lay 5-1 that you have no clue, so I'll give you a hint: the answer is in PAndrews post above.

    And for the record, BGS ADMITS they grade sheet cuts. Whether sheet cuts are acceptable to you or anyone else is another issue entirely, but the grading company itself freely admits they will slab a sheet cut card so long as it specs up to the minimum measurement.

    First your mindless blather on 89 UD, and now this. Take a month off bro-- it'll do you and the board good.

    Best,
    Guy
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭





    << <i>Thanks Lawnmower, I appreciate it. I apologize for getting out of hand with the comments but I just get so tired of seeing the same stuff all the time. Let's face it, the 4 grading companies I mentioned are all good and they all try. I've met the people at Beckett, PSA, GAI and SGC - all good people and all try their best and they put out a quality product, that's all I have to say. Chaz >>

    We're cool. I appreciate it as well and apologize for my part.

  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi Chaz--

    It's OK to be either a) dumb, or b) loud, but being both really turns people off.

    Do you have any idea why I said the BGS 10 McGwire was sheet cut? I'll lay 5-1 that you have no clue, so I'll give you a hint: the answer is in PAndrews post above.

    And for the record, BGS ADMITS they grade sheet cuts. Whether sheet cuts are acceptable to you or anyone else is another issue entirely, but the grading company itself freely admits they will slab a sheet cut card so long as it specs up to the minimum measurement.

    First your mindless blather on 89 UD, and now this. Take a month off bro-- it'll do you and the board good.

    Best,
    Guy >>



    Hey Guy- so what if it is sheet cut???? So what if PSA doesn't use the .5 grading sytem and
    Beckett and GAI do? The way you and others put it out there that somehow sheetcut is bad (and that's how people perceive it ) and ruins it for someone who put their hard earned money out to buy the card. This industry needs some specific standards that every grading card company (Beckett, PSA, GAI, SGC) adheres to or where going to continue to have to put up with these little whiny, weasel comments. Chaz
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Hi Chaz--

    It's OK to be either a) dumb, or b) loud, but being both really turns people off.

    Do you have any idea why I said the BGS 10 McGwire was sheet cut? I'll lay 5-1 that you have no clue, so I'll give you a hint: the answer is in PAndrews post above.

    And for the record, BGS ADMITS they grade sheet cuts. Whether sheet cuts are acceptable to you or anyone else is another issue entirely, but the grading company itself freely admits they will slab a sheet cut card so long as it specs up to the minimum measurement.

    First your mindless blather on 89 UD, and now this. Take a month off bro-- it'll do you and the board good.

    Best,
    Guy >>



    Hey Guy- so what if it is sheet cut???? So what if PSA doesn't use the .5 grading sytem and
    Beckett and GAI do? The way you and others put it out there that somehow sheetcut is bad (and that's how people perceive it ) and ruins it for someone who put their hard earned money out to buy the card. This industry needs some specific standards that every grading card company (Beckett, PSA, GAI, SGC) adheres to or where going to continue to have to put up with these little whiny, weasel comments. Chaz >>



    Some people don't like sheet cuts, some people don't care either way. If you don't want sheet cuts in your collection you're probably best off avoiding any BGS card where the surface grade is a full point lower then the other subgrades. If you don't care, then hey-- you don't care. Which is fine. There's room for everyone under the tent.

    Pointing out that the card is likely sheet cut, however, is in no way evidence that I need to 'grow up', as you so eloquently put it. And in case you missed the memo, this is a sportscard forum, where people discuss all issues related to sports cards. And that includes various grading companies. People have different opinions of these grading companies, and you may or may not agree with them. If you don't agree, then either put forth some kind of intelligent counter argument (hint: calling people and/ or their posts 'whiny' or 'weasly' doesn't qualify) or politely move on to the next topic of interest.

    You say you're 'tired' of threads that are critical of other grading companies besides PSA. Well guess what? I'm tired of all kinds of different threads, amongst them being those that point out the latest PRO Mantle on Ebay, discussions on Ebay feedback etiquette, and complaints about shipping charges. But you know what I do? I JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THREAD. You should try it-- it works well for everyone involved.


  • << <i>daneyb, shut your trap you piece of garbage. it is a lousy scan, you jerk. >>



    Nice avatar!! Is that a self portrait??
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Hi Chaz--

    It's OK to be either a) dumb, or b) loud, but being both really turns people off.

    Do you have any idea why I said the BGS 10 McGwire was sheet cut? I'll lay 5-1 that you have no clue, so I'll give you a hint: the answer is in PAndrews post above.

    And for the record, BGS ADMITS they grade sheet cuts. Whether sheet cuts are acceptable to you or anyone else is another issue entirely, but the grading company itself freely admits they will slab a sheet cut card so long as it specs up to the minimum measurement.

    First your mindless blather on 89 UD, and now this. Take a month off bro-- it'll do you and the board good.

    Best,
    Guy >>



    Hey Guy- so what if it is sheet cut???? So what if PSA doesn't use the .5 grading sytem and
    Beckett and GAI do? The way you and others put it out there that somehow sheetcut is bad (and that's how people perceive it ) and ruins it for someone who put their hard earned money out to buy the card. This industry needs some specific standards that every grading card company (Beckett, PSA, GAI, SGC) adheres to or where going to continue to have to put up with these little whiny, weasel comments. Chaz >>



    Some people don't like sheet cuts, some people don't care either way. If you don't want sheet cuts in your collection you're probably best off avoiding any BGS card where the surface grade is a full point lower then the other subgrades. If you don't care, then hey-- you don't care. Which is fine. There's room for everyone under the tent.

    Pointing out that the card is likely sheet cut, however, is in no way evidence that I need to 'grow up', as you so eloquently put it. And in case you missed the memo, this is a sportscard forum, where people discuss all issues related to sports cards. And that includes various grading companies. People have different opinions of these grading companies, and you may or may not agree with them. If you don't agree, then either put forth some kind of intelligent counter argument (hint: calling people and/ or their posts 'whiny' or 'weasly' doesn't qualify) or politely move on to the next topic of interest.

    You say you're 'tired' of threads that are critical of other grading companies besides PSA. Well guess what? I'm tired of all kinds of different threads, amongst them being those that point out the latest PRO Mantle on Ebay, discussions on Ebay feedback etiquette, and complaints about shipping charges. But you know what I do? I JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THREAD. You should try it-- it works well for everyone involved. >>




    Oh now it 's " If you don't care, then hey-you don't care. Which is fine." Thanks for proving my point. You know exactly what I am talking about when the negative conotation of "sheet cut" is discussed in this forum. I don't feel I was out of line by saying that people do need to "grow up" on this discussion board regarding "sheet cut or trimmed cards'" with the exception of "PRO" which we all know grades trimmed cards. Just keep it real and truthful that's all I'm saying. Chaz
  • I remember when I had my first beer.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>I remember when I had my first beer. >>



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  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I remember when I had my first beer. >>




    Can you please explain cause I can't remember my first beer it was so long ago. chaz
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I remember when I had my first beer. >>




    Can you please explain cause I can't remember my first beer it was so long ago. chaz >>




    The 'negative connotation' of sheet cuts comes up on this board because--- are you ready for this-- MOST PEOPLE ON THESE BOARDS CONSIDER THEM INFERIOR TO CARDS THAT WERE CUT AT THE FACTORY. If YOU don't agree with this then bid on BGS 9.5's with low surface subgrades into you're blue in the face. I don't care what you or anyone else spends their money on. But just as nobody should begrudge you if you don't mind sheet cuts you shouldn't begrudge anyone else if they DO mind them.

  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi Chaz--

    It's OK to be either a) dumb, or b) loud, but being both really turns people off.

    Do you have any idea why I said the BGS 10 McGwire was sheet cut? I'll lay 5-1 that you have no clue, so I'll give you a hint: the answer is in PAndrews post above.

    And for the record, BGS ADMITS they grade sheet cuts. Whether sheet cuts are acceptable to you or anyone else is another issue entirely, but the grading company itself freely admits they will slab a sheet cut card so long as it specs up to the minimum measurement.

    First your mindless blather on 89 UD, and now this. Take a month off bro-- it'll do you and the board good.

    Best,
    Guy >>




    Sounds like someone didn't get a BGS 10 on their Mcgwire rc.
    Collecting
    HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Hi Chaz--

    It's OK to be either a) dumb, or b) loud, but being both really turns people off.

    Do you have any idea why I said the BGS 10 McGwire was sheet cut? I'll lay 5-1 that you have no clue, so I'll give you a hint: the answer is in PAndrews post above.

    And for the record, BGS ADMITS they grade sheet cuts. Whether sheet cuts are acceptable to you or anyone else is another issue entirely, but the grading company itself freely admits they will slab a sheet cut card so long as it specs up to the minimum measurement.

    First your mindless blather on 89 UD, and now this. Take a month off bro-- it'll do you and the board good.

    Best,
    Guy >>




    Sounds like someone didn't get a BGS 10 on their Mcgwire rc. >>



    Thanks, but I've never submitted one.
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,139 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it me or does this card appear no better than perhaps a PSA 9 or maybe PSA 10? >>


    In theory, isn't that exactly how it should be? A PSA 10 and a BGS 10 being the same?

    Tabe
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I remember when I had my first beer. >>




    Can you please explain cause I can't remember my first beer it was so long ago. chaz >>



    i had my first beer aefw hours ago and i remember it..

    keep it real

    stay classy,

    word is bond.

    true.

    holla back..

    sincerelyu, chaz
    ·p_A·
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I remember when I had my first beer. >>




    Can you please explain cause I can't remember my first beer it was so long ago. chaz >>




    The 'negative connotation' of sheet cuts comes up on this board because--- are you ready for this-- MOST PEOPLE ON THESE BOARDS CONSIDER THEM INFERIOR TO CARDS THAT WERE CUT AT THE FACTORY. If YOU don't agree with this then bid on BGS 9.5's with low surface subgrades into you're blue in the face. I don't care what you or anyone else spends their money on. But just as nobody should begrudge you if you don't mind sheet cuts you shouldn't begrudge anyone else if they DO mind them. >>




    "Sheetcut " is negative and you know it. Take a look at "handcut" 59' bazooka cards Mr. Know everything. These cards are graded by PSA and they go for big money as an example. You use this terminology as another way of knocking the competition which is childish. chaz
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    It is easier to obtain a "higher" grade on something that was intact, in sheet form, until last week, when it was "cut" and graded. Rather than a card which was sitting in a stack in my room, then in a storage box, and not to mention sealed in a pack. That is all.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It is easier to obtain a "higher" grade on something that was intact, in sheet form, until last week, when it was "cut" and graded. Rather than a card which was sitting in a stack in my room, then in a storage box, and not to mention sealed in a pack. That is all. >>





    So sheet cut is bad ? Give me a break. If anything vintage sheetcut should be worth alot more because of the rarity of the sheet. It is all how you look at it my freind. Just keep it real and honest. chaz
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    Just another case of a big dealer getting grades bumped by BGS.......and i agree with envoy98....psastock is the seller, yet selling BGS ?? If that doesnt smell like friendly bumping I dont know what does.....and that Ripken is a joke....but as long as there are fools who buy the holder and not the card it will just get worse.
    "The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It is easier to obtain a "higher" grade on something that was intact, in sheet form, until last week, when it was "cut" and graded. Rather than a card which was sitting in a stack in my room, then in a storage box, and not to mention sealed in a pack. That is all. >>





    So sheet cut is bad ? Give me a break. If anything vintage sheetcut should be worth alot more because of the rarity of the sheet. It is all how you look at it my freind. Just keep it real and honest. chaz >>




    Negative to who? To me? Yes, sheet cut is negative. So--- and here we go again-- I don't buy high end BGS slabs. To others on this board? Again, yes-- sheet cut is negative. To you? I have no idea (nor do I care) what your thoughts are on sheet cuts.


    What, exactly, is your deal? I, and others here, don't like sheet cuts. If that ticks you off then too bad.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>It is easier to obtain a "higher" grade on something that was intact, in sheet form, until last week, when it was "cut" and graded. Rather than a card which was sitting in a stack in my room, then in a storage box, and not to mention sealed in a pack. That is all. >>





    So sheet cut is bad ? Give me a break. If anything vintage sheetcut should be worth alot more because of the rarity of the sheet. It is all how you look at it my freind. Just keep it real and honest. chaz >>




    Negative to who? To me? Yes, sheet cut is negative. So--- and here we go again-- I don't buy high end BGS slabs. To others on this board? Again, yes-- sheet cut is negative. To you? I have no idea (nor do I care) what your thoughts are on sheet cuts.


    What, exactly, is your deal? I, and others here, don't like sheet cuts. If that ticks you off then too bad. >>




    So if you don't like sheet cuts that 's your problem. How about "hand cuts" graded by PSA. No respnse from you on that. What if PSA graded sheet cuts, I bet you'd love them. Give me a break. Keep it real and quit knocking the competition it makes you look childish. chaz
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>It is easier to obtain a "higher" grade on something that was intact, in sheet form, until last week, when it was "cut" and graded. Rather than a card which was sitting in a stack in my room, then in a storage box, and not to mention sealed in a pack. That is all. >>





    So sheet cut is bad ? Give me a break. If anything vintage sheetcut should be worth alot more because of the rarity of the sheet. It is all how you look at it my freind. Just keep it real and honest. chaz >>




    Negative to who? To me? Yes, sheet cut is negative. So--- and here we go again-- I don't buy high end BGS slabs. To others on this board? Again, yes-- sheet cut is negative. To you? I have no idea (nor do I care) what your thoughts are on sheet cuts.


    What, exactly, is your deal? I, and others here, don't like sheet cuts. If that ticks you off then too bad. >>








    So if you don't like sheet cuts that 's your problem. How about "hand cuts" graded by PSA. No respnse from you on that. What if PSA graded sheet cuts, I bet you'd love them. Give me a break. Keep it real and quit knocking the competition it makes you look childish. chaz >>






    What's the matter boopotts, cat got your tongue? This is all very subjective. Look it up if you don't know the meaning of the word "subjective". chaz
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    So sheet cut is bad ? Give me a break. If anything vintage sheetcut should be worth alot more because of the rarity of the sheet. It is all how you look at it my freind. Just keep it real and honest. chaz >>




    Negative to who? To me? Yes, sheet cut is negative. So--- and here we go again-- I don't buy high end BGS slabs. To others on this board? Again, yes-- sheet cut is negative. To you? I have no idea (nor do I care) what your thoughts are on sheet cuts.


    What, exactly, is your deal? I, and others here, don't like sheet cuts. If that ticks you off then too bad. >>








    So if you don't like sheet cuts that 's your problem. How about "hand cuts" graded by PSA. No respnse from you on that. What if PSA graded sheet cuts, I bet you'd love them. Give me a break. Keep it real and quit knocking the competition it makes you look childish. chaz >>






    What's the matter boopotts, cat got your tongue? This is all very subjective. Look it up if you don't know the meaning of the word "subjective". chaz >>




    Thanks for the heads up. I'll grab my Webster's and see what they have to say about the word 'subjective'. Somehow I must have missed that big, tough word when I was getting my Master's in English at the Univ. of Colorado, lol.

    Anyway, this is my last post on this topic. Keep firing away if it makes you feel better.
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    So sheet cut is bad ? Give me a break. If anything vintage sheetcut should be worth alot more because of the rarity of the sheet. It is all how you look at it my freind. Just keep it real and honest. chaz >>




    Negative to who? To me? Yes, sheet cut is negative. So--- and here we go again-- I don't buy high end BGS slabs. To others on this board? Again, yes-- sheet cut is negative. To you? I have no idea (nor do I care) what your thoughts are on sheet cuts.


    What, exactly, is your deal? I, and others here, don't like sheet cuts. If that ticks you off then too bad. >>








    So if you don't like sheet cuts that 's your problem. How about "hand cuts" graded by PSA. No respnse from you on that. What if PSA graded sheet cuts, I bet you'd love them. Give me a break. Keep it real and quit knocking the competition it makes you look childish. chaz >>






    What's the matter boopotts, cat got your tongue? This is all very subjective. Look it up if you don't know the meaning of the word "subjective". chaz >>




    Thanks for the heads up. I'll grab my Webster's and see what they have to say about the word 'subjective'. Somehow I must have missed that big, tough word when I was getting my Master's in English at the Univ. of Colorado, lol.

    Anyway, this is my last post on this topic. Keep firing away if it makes you feel better. >>




    BOOPOTTS - YOU ARE A CHICKEN AND IT'S CHECKMATE SUCKER. CHAZ
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    << <i>BOOPOTTS - YOU ARE A CHICKEN AND IT'S CHECKMATE SUCKER. CHAZ >>



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  • chaz43 = D1ckhead..........go somewhere else PLEASE !
    Scott

    T206's are always being bought.


    aloof1003@comcast.net
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    PUNK
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    you lose.
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  • Ok, just to totally change the direction of this post, but something about the card originally mentioned is really bugging me. If you go to the auction and click on the enlarged scan, there is a 10 and a 9.5 right next to each other - but they are DIFFERENT!! Just look at the eyes and the mouth. How can this be???? Can anyone else tell the difference, or am I just seeing things?
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    Ok, just to totally change the direction of this post, but something about the card originally mentioned is really bugging me. If you go to the auction and click on the enlarged scan, there is a 10 and a 9.5 right next to each other - but they are DIFFERENT!! Just look at the eyes and the mouth. How can this be???? Can anyone else tell the difference, or am I just seeing things?

    Mucky, if you're seeing things, then I'm seeing things too! What is going on here? A quick ebay search shows that the eyes / mouth "opened" variation is more common.

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    So sheet cut is bad ? Give me a break. If anything vintage sheetcut should be worth alot more because of the rarity of the sheet. It is all how you look at it my freind. Just keep it real and honest. chaz >>




    Negative to who? To me? Yes, sheet cut is negative. So--- and here we go again-- I don't buy high end BGS slabs. To others on this board? Again, yes-- sheet cut is negative. To you? I have no idea (nor do I care) what your thoughts are on sheet cuts.


    What, exactly, is your deal? I, and others here, don't like sheet cuts. If that ticks you off then too bad. >>








    So if you don't like sheet cuts that 's your problem. How about "hand cuts" graded by PSA. No respnse from you on that. What if PSA graded sheet cuts, I bet you'd love them. Give me a break. Keep it real and quit knocking the competition it makes you look childish. chaz >>






    What's the matter boopotts, cat got your tongue? This is all very subjective. Look it up if you don't know the meaning of the word "subjective". chaz >>




    Thanks for the heads up. I'll grab my Webster's and see what they have to say about the word 'subjective'. Somehow I must have missed that big, tough word when I was getting my Master's in English at the Univ. of Colorado, lol.

    Anyway, this is my last post on this topic. Keep firing away if it makes you feel better. >>




    BOOPOTTS - YOU ARE A CHICKEN AND IT'S CHECKMATE SUCKER. CHAZ >>




    Yep, you win. Give your mayor a call-- I'm sure he'll leap at the chance to put on a ticker tape parade for you. Then, with all the endorsement money you get for being such a great champion you can buy up all the 89 UD you can get your hands on. If it drops in value like a rock, hey-- that's no problem! Just buy more and DOLLAR COST AVERAGE!
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    So sheet cut is bad ? Give me a break. If anything vintage sheetcut should be worth alot more because of the rarity of the sheet. It is all how you look at it my freind. Just keep it real and honest. chaz >>




    Negative to who? To me? Yes, sheet cut is negative. So--- and here we go again-- I don't buy high end BGS slabs. To others on this board? Again, yes-- sheet cut is negative. To you? I have no idea (nor do I care) what your thoughts are on sheet cuts.


    What, exactly, is your deal? I, and others here, don't like sheet cuts. If that ticks you off then too bad. >>








    So if you don't like sheet cuts that 's your problem. How about "hand cuts" graded by PSA. No respnse from you on that. What if PSA graded sheet cuts, I bet you'd love them. Give me a break. Keep it real and quit knocking the competition it makes you look childish. chaz >>






    What's the matter boopotts, cat got your tongue? This is all very subjective. Look it up if you don't know the meaning of the word "subjective". chaz >>




    Thanks for the heads up. I'll grab my Webster's and see what they have to say about the word 'subjective'. Somehow I must have missed that big, tough word when I was getting my Master's in English at the Univ. of Colorado, lol.

    Anyway, this is my last post on this topic. Keep firing away if it makes you feel better. >>




    BOOPOTTS - YOU ARE A CHICKEN AND IT'S CHECKMATE SUCKER. CHAZ >>




    Yep, you win. Give your mayor a call-- I'm sure he'll leap at the chance to put on a ticker tape parade for you. Then, with all the endorsement money you get for being such a great champion you can buy up all the 89 UD you can get your hands on. If it drops in value like a rock, hey-- that's no problem! Just buy more and DOLLAR COST AVERAGE! >>





    NOW YOU ARE FINALLY GETTING IT!!!!! I AM IN TOTAL SHOCK AND AWE !!!!!!!!! THERE IS HOPE FOR YOU AFTERALL!!!!!! REMEMBER YOUR ECONOMICS TURKEY FROM THE GREATEST INVESTOR (WARREN BUFFET) WHO EVER LIVED "WHEN THE PRICE GOES DOWN ....... WE CELEBRATE!!!! PUT THAT IN YOUR LITTLE TIP CUP
    SUCKER. CHAZ PS: CHECKMATE AGAIN SUCKER
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    T206's are always being bought.


    aloof1003@comcast.net
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    C E L E B R A T E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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