Home U.S. Coin Forum

What's up with the Motto on this 1889 Morgan? (More photos added)

OneyOney Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
I picked this up at the Boston coin show last weekend. The coinis almost PL but I discovered something about the motto. The top of the G, d, w, e, t and r are very faded almost missing. The bottoms of w, e, t and r are double stamped. See the marks to the lower right of each letter? What caused these? Any help would be appreciated. image

imageimage

Motto
image
image
image
image
Brian

Comments

  • Banged to BeeJesus?
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Looks like it got friendly with the rims of some others in the bag. Can't tell for sure, but the reverse looks like it might be clashed.
    Select Rarities -- DMPLs and VAMs
    NSDR - Life Member
    SSDC - Life Member
    ANA - Pay As I Go Member
  • OneyOney Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
    These are not marks from another coin....I'll add more photos.
    Brian
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    I see what you are saying. If it was a doubling on the die for the motto, I would expect that to be a hub defect and appear on other ones as well. In this case, perhaps we should rule out strike doubling. The legend doesn't exhibit anything noticeable. Next might be an artifact of aggressive polishing of the die in that area. Coming out of the depressions of the letters might have effectively wiped in shadows. Keep looking at it.
    Select Rarities -- DMPLs and VAMs
    NSDR - Life Member
    SSDC - Life Member
    ANA - Pay As I Go Member
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Next might be an artifact of aggressive polishing of the die in that area

    That was my thought regarding the fading look of some of the letters.....
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • OneyOney Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
    Any other thoughts?
    Brian
  • I think it's die deterioration - the details of the motto are so small compared to the pressure exerted that they usually wear out more quickly than the rest of the die.
    Proudly upholding derelict standards for five decades.

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file