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Were any classic MS pieces treated better than others off the dies?

airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
I was just wondering about the high grade classics... perhaps MS68 morgans or other series where lofty grades are often limited by common bag marks. Were any pieces ever struck and not ejected into a bag? It seems hard to imagine how any, even if very few, pieces could have survived being thrown into a bag, being covered with other coins, and moving around once in the bag, with nary a mark to speak of.

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  • CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
    Back in the olden days ladies wore dresses with low cut bust lines. Look at a bust dollar or capped bust half and you’ll get the picture. Sometimes, when no one was looking, ladies who worked at the mint would lean over the coin press as coins were being ejected. The talented gals could catch a silver dollar or two in their bosoms. The mint did not have metal detectors back then and it was simply not fitting to frisk or search a lady, so a few pristine coins did slip out of the mint. This is generally believed to be the source of most MS68 dollars.

    CG
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,346 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Back in the olden days ladies wore dresses with low cut bust lines. Look at a bust dollar or capped bust half and you’ll get the picture. Sometimes, when no one was looking, ladies who worked at the mint would lean over the coin press as coins were being ejected. The talented gals could catch a silver dollar or two in their bosoms. The mint did not have metal detectors back then and it was simply not fitting to frisk or search a lady, so a few pristine coins did slip out of the mint. This is generally believed to be the source of most MS68 dollars.

    CG >>



    You would have heard a lot of screeaming because coins fresh off the dies were extremely hot.


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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mint standards dropped significantly in 1950. Largely this was caused by the escalating number
    of coins being made but there were other trends which probably led to it as well.

    Before the 1920's there was much more demanded of individuals in their occupations. Doing a poor
    job would usually result in a change in occupation. This meant that most people tried harder and
    took more pride in their work. Coins often left the mint in nearly pristine condition after having been
    very well made. Just as today the bulk of these were worn down but unlike those today, even those
    which were set aside are far more likely have to degraded over the years. This will especially apply
    to coins with lower values because they are more common.

    Mint practices were different as well which made gems more likely. For instance the first coins into a
    $1000 bag have only inches to fall and accelerate before hitting the coins already bagged but those
    going into a balistic bags can attain far higher speeds. Dies were changed art the first sign of fatigue
    for many of the older coins but some of the modern dies have been used long after flow lines began
    to appear and detail disappear.

    Many old timers saved the best coins just as people do now which may tend to skew our perception
    of the time but look at the heavily worn barbers. Few of these show signs of having been poorly struck.
    The fact that silver and cu/ ni have much different striking characteristics might color our perception as
    well but look at the liberty and buffalo nickels. While quality here is also spotty it tends to be quite a
    bit higher than the '50- '99 quality. The shield nickels were pretty bad but these were the mint's first
    attempt at coining this material.
    Tempus fugit.
  • BigTomBigTom Posts: 305 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Back in the olden days ladies wore dresses with low cut bust lines. Look at a bust dollar or capped bust half and you’ll get the picture. Sometimes, when no one was looking, ladies who worked at the mint would lean over the coin press as coins were being ejected. The talented gals could catch a silver dollar or two in their bosoms.

    CG >>



    ...........I'm afraid to ask you to explain where the luster came from.
  • MercMerc Posts: 1,646 ✭✭
    There are some amazing proof-like Seated coins. The look almost like proofs but are business strikes. Somebody took special care of a few high MS coins right out of the mint.
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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Back in the olden days ladies wore dresses with low cut bust lines. Look at a bust dollar or capped bust half and you’ll get the picture. Sometimes, when no one was looking, ladies who worked at the mint would lean over the coin press as coins were being ejected. The talented gals could catch a silver dollar or two in their bosoms. The mint did not have metal detectors back then and it was simply not fitting to frisk or search a lady, so a few pristine coins did slip out of the mint. This is generally believed to be the source of most MS68 dollars.

    CG >>



    You would have heard a lot of screeaming because coins fresh off the dies were extremely hot. >>



    It's a little-known fact that the mint worker who collected the most pristine condition was Miss Asbestos "The Breastest" MacMillan, who worked as a coiners assistant from March 17, 1876 until her retirement in October of 1904. She had a peculiar immunity from the hot coins in a normally sensitive location of the body.
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  • scherscher Posts: 924
    o brother
    bruce scher
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374


    << <i>Back in the olden days ladies wore dresses with low cut bust lines. Look at a bust dollar or capped bust half and you’ll get the picture. Sometimes, when no one was looking, ladies who worked at the mint would lean over the coin press as coins were being ejected. The talented gals could catch a silver dollar or two in their bosoms.
    >>



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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Makes me want to buy more high-grade classics.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Makes me want to buy more high-grade classics. >>



    The women in the mint now days are as clad as the coins.

    So what's causing the milk spots on eagles?
    Tempus fugit.

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