Someone's gonna get burnt

21Walker

Check out this 1849 'O' Trade Dollar......Linky poo

I emailed this guy last night the following..........

Greetings Ron, You need to revise your auction as the coin you are selling is counterfeit. The 'cc' below the eagle stands for Carson city mint which did not start minting these dollars til 1870.........Rick


No response in 24 hours...........Rick

IrishMike

Fools and their money are soon parted. The auction you linked is of a seated dollar.

maddogale

Check out that bozo's other auctions!!!

21Walker

Thanks for the the correction on the Tade vs the Seated Dollar...........either way .......1849 'O' seated Liberty Dollar???????????.................Rick

rec78

Yeah and read the real itty bitty fine print---------NO REFUNDS

Kip

Too bad ebay wont do anything about this rip

flashbang

now its an 1848 seated dollar

UncleWiggly

<< <i>Yeah and read the real itty bitty fine print---------NO REFUNDS >>




It's so itty bitty the only thing you can read is No Refunds! LOL



Jerry

rec78

What amazes me is the ignorance of the bidders ! I mean, do bidders like this just start collecting coins this morning and decide to just throw $100.00 or more at anything?

ccex

<< <i>Check out that bozo's other auctions!!! >>



The best chuckle I found was his 1872-O Trade Dollar. He and/or his grandpa were clueless. Let's watch eBay collect fees on this one!
LINK

bhartman35

If it's any consolation, the current high bidder has a -1 feedback rating. LOL.

KoinDawg

When I'm selecting raw coins to bid on (since I'm a newbie), I look at the sellers feedback score. It has to be 6000+ most of the time for me to consider the coin. Next, I look at how many bids so far and look at the feedback scores of those bidders (click on bid number). If all the people bidding on a coin have feedback scores less than 100, I assume the person inexperienced. If I find a dealer with high feedback number and the bidders include buyers with high feedback, then I generally take this as a hint that the coin is probably authentic.

MFH

I especially liked the fact that this auction's highest bidder has a Negative " 1 " feedback.

They both deserve each other.

windwhispersintrees

Auction description: Here is another coin from my Grandfathers collection. He had several of these older coins and I coundn't find out much about them. I am not a dealer and leave this up to you to judge.

Translation: I recently inherited a counterfeiting business from my Chinese grandfather. We make several kinds of these coins that are supposed to look old. I'm pretending that I don't know they're fake. I hope you're twice as ignorant as you think I am. If so, then you'll buy one and I won't refund your money.

Russ

<< <i>Here is another coin from my Grandfathers collection. >>



Selection #3, Chapter #4, eBay Slimeball Handbook.

Russ, NCNE

UncleWiggly

<< <i>now its an 1848 seated dollar >>



I don't know enough to say it's counterfeit other than it's being touted as an 1848-CC Seated Dollar.


Can anybody tell me what they see on the obverse that would point to a fake? What about the reverse? What's there that shows it's not the reverse of a real 70, 71,72, or 73? I wonder if this guy mixed up his photos?



Jerry

segoja

Coin lacks details.

mojoman

Just a thouhgt ,and time consuming but has anybody ever tried contacting the buyers to let them know that they are getting screwed? Some people think they are getting a DEAL but in fact if they did the homework They would know its a scam,I just hate seeing Ebay turn into a scammers "PARIDISE" But it is happining everyday .



MoJo

dizzyfoxx

That coin is real... and so is BigFoot!

UncleWiggly

<< <i>Just a thouhgt ,and time consuming but has anybody ever tried contacting the buyers to let them know that they are getting screwed? Some people think they are getting a DEAL but in fact if they did the homework They would know its a scam,I just hate seeing Ebay turn into a scammers "PARIDISE" But it is happining everyday .



MoJo >>




If it wasn't so high I would bid on it just to have it. Anybody got one like it? I suggest that if anybody does contact a bidder not to tell them anything! Asking them questions that lead them to the proper conclusion is a better way.

Myqqy

That coin is real... and so is BigFoot!

Hey bigfoot is real!!

Conder101

You have to give him some credit, he added to the description on the seated and trade dollars that people on-line have informed him that it is not real.

bhartman35

1) I suspect it was given to him by his grandfather before he died (if at all), since it would be rather hard for his grandfather to give him anything after.

2) I agree with Conder101. At least he updated the auction to say that many people say the coin isn't real. Probably the most honest thing he can do, considering the fact that he doesn't know about the coin. (If he did know it was a fake, he wouldn't mention that people online told him it's not real, and he certainly wouldn't have said "many" people say it's not real.)

Having said that, he's also got a Confederate cent on Ebay. I'm not an expert on Civil War coinage, but I'm pretty sure that there are only a few existing copies of that cent, and it was never released into circulation. He's either fairly gullible or not very good at being a con artist.

Conder101

<< <i>Can anybody tell me what they see on the obverse that would point to a fake? What about the reverse? What's there that shows it's not the reverse of a real 70, 71,72, or 73? I wonder if this guy mixed up his photos? >>


On the 1848, the second 8 is larger and crudely formed, on the reverse the CC's are too large and the wrong shape to be any of the CC seated dollar reverses.
The 1871 and 72 trade dollars of course are impossible since the trade dollar didn't begin until 1873.
The reverse of the 71-S is a type II reverse that wasn't introduced until 1876.
The 1872 has crudely formed digits in the date and the final 2 is much too high. (The mint at that time used four digit logotype punches all formed from the same master model but is different sizes. If one 1872 punch looked like that, all of them would have.)
As for the reverse, New Orleans never struck trade dollars. It closed in 1861 and didn't reopen until 1879. The denitcals are also portly forms and seperated from the rims in various places.

thecointrader

Contacting the bidders in an auction is a violation of eBay Rules (Auction Interference).

This is one way eBay keeps collecting their fees....

thecointrader