So, you wanna collect Buffs? (Part III)
BuffaloIronTail
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Here's some more thoughts on Buffs, all posted to reply to those who wanted specific dates/mints:
For AD4400:
1924-P:
This issue is difficult to come by when selecting even a nice, circulated example. They were not properly made from the Master Hub, so none will be great looking. They are always soft on the Buffs head, and the date area. Being a Plilly coin, one can understand the rarity and disaster in 1924 that came from Denver and San Franciso, both of these Mints produced horribly struck coins, the softer pressure of the strike only made an incomplete coin worse.
Look for the best specimen you can find that exhibits the most detail on the above mentioned areas.
1928-D, 1928-S: (Mint state issues)
Both are rare fully struck up. Even the 1928-P is kinda soft. The Mint was starting to use chromium-plated dies introduced this year, so the overall strike is not anywhere near as horrible as previous years. You're better off finding a decent strike on the Denver issue over the San Francisco coin, and unless you want Gem quality (MS-65 and up) , you should be able to find a nice bright 63 that won't break the bank.
ALL mintmarked coins fron 1917 to 1927 are low in quality for many different reasons, including poor die steel, low striking pressure, incomplete hubbing, re-use of old reverse dies to complete a run of coins, and uneven strikes. (Yep, as if it wasn't bad enough, some coins were even struck either with one side or the other fully struck, and the other terminally weak).
1919-D to my knowledge, has NEVER been found with a complete strike ( I may be wrong on this), and is one of the last coins most Buff collectors purchase to finish their collection.
Find any 1921-S that looks good and buy it (as stated before, they are becoming RARE in fine or above)
1924-D and S , and 1925-D and S, and 1926-D and S are the very WORST coins in the whole series for strike.
1925-D rivals 1919-D for the top honor. 1926-D, as horrible as they are still can be found acceptable with some searching. Be selective.
Just remember, when searching through this date range, all you can hope for, is finding the best strike you could. That, in itself is a real challenge.
That's all for now.
JTMC and Shamika.....I'll get your requests in part IV. Soon.
Hope this helps.
Pete
For AD4400:
1924-P:
This issue is difficult to come by when selecting even a nice, circulated example. They were not properly made from the Master Hub, so none will be great looking. They are always soft on the Buffs head, and the date area. Being a Plilly coin, one can understand the rarity and disaster in 1924 that came from Denver and San Franciso, both of these Mints produced horribly struck coins, the softer pressure of the strike only made an incomplete coin worse.
Look for the best specimen you can find that exhibits the most detail on the above mentioned areas.
1928-D, 1928-S: (Mint state issues)
Both are rare fully struck up. Even the 1928-P is kinda soft. The Mint was starting to use chromium-plated dies introduced this year, so the overall strike is not anywhere near as horrible as previous years. You're better off finding a decent strike on the Denver issue over the San Francisco coin, and unless you want Gem quality (MS-65 and up) , you should be able to find a nice bright 63 that won't break the bank.
ALL mintmarked coins fron 1917 to 1927 are low in quality for many different reasons, including poor die steel, low striking pressure, incomplete hubbing, re-use of old reverse dies to complete a run of coins, and uneven strikes. (Yep, as if it wasn't bad enough, some coins were even struck either with one side or the other fully struck, and the other terminally weak).
1919-D to my knowledge, has NEVER been found with a complete strike ( I may be wrong on this), and is one of the last coins most Buff collectors purchase to finish their collection.
Find any 1921-S that looks good and buy it (as stated before, they are becoming RARE in fine or above)
1924-D and S , and 1925-D and S, and 1926-D and S are the very WORST coins in the whole series for strike.
1925-D rivals 1919-D for the top honor. 1926-D, as horrible as they are still can be found acceptable with some searching. Be selective.
Just remember, when searching through this date range, all you can hope for, is finding the best strike you could. That, in itself is a real challenge.
That's all for now.
JTMC and Shamika.....I'll get your requests in part IV. Soon.
Hope this helps.
Pete
"I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
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pete
another great post. while im on ebay i always refer back to your posts for reference and you have really helped me. your info has kept me from making costly mistakes.
thanks
john
"1928-D (Mint state issue):
Both are rare fully struck up. The Mint was starting to use chromium-plated dies introduced this year, so the overall strike is not anywhere near as horrible as previous years."
"Even the 1928-P is kinda soft."
"1924-D and S , and 1925-D and S, and 1926-D and S are the very WORST coins in the whole series for strike."
1926-D:
1925-D:
"1924-P: This issue is difficult to come by when selecting even a nice, circulated example. They were not properly made from the Master Hub, so none will be great looking. They are always soft on the Buffs head, and the date area."
1924:
Still, notice the shallowness in the first two numerals of the date, and the tip of the lowest feather. Also, central obverse.
Nice coin...........
Pete
<< <i>1928-D, 1928-S: (Mint state issues)
Both are rare fully struck up. Even the 1928-P is kinda soft. >>
This seems true for the 28-P and 28-D. I've never seen a fully struck 28-D in any grade. The difference between a 64, a 65, and a 66 is generally luster, color, and clean surfaces.
<< <i>1924-D and S , and 1925-D and S, and 1926-D and S are the very WORST coins in the whole series for strike. >>
I would add the 27-D and S as well. In fact, the 27-D with even a good strike is a rarety.
<< <i>1919-D to my knowledge, has NEVER been found with a complete strike ( I may be wrong on this)... >>
Actually, this date can be found with very good strikes more often than David Lange reports. Couldn't say the same about the 20-D however.
If you'd like to see a couple of true full strikes for the 1919-D, search the Heritage Archives. There are several there, along with a number of near full strikes. I have completed an extensive strike study for this series for the second edition of "Treasure Hunting Buffalo Nickels" (now named "The Authoratative Refererence to Buffalo Nickels" and I feel that the 1919-D is a vastly overrated strike rarity. That's not to say that any of the dates I mention don't come with a truly lousy strike-the certainly do-as do all the branch Mint coins from 1916 thru 1935.