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Very sad to hear: Kevin Brown retires on Feb 20, 2006

DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
It is getting harder and harder to hold interest in baseball when my childhood stars are leaving the game.

Yes, I like Jeter, but I have trouble following guys that are my age or younger---it just does not feel right. We always imagine our baseball heroes being older or more mature than us. I guess its just a matter of coming to a realization that things change.

I liked Mattingly when I was growing up, but I cannot say that Jeter is any less of a class guy or that Chipper Jones does not play the game any less harder than the HIT MAN.
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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    I think Kevin Brown retired the day he signed with the Yankees.

    "The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
    -- Yogi Berra

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  • At least Brownie did the right thing by sucking some extra cash out of Steinbrenner and took a roster spot from a player that might have contributed! image


  • << <i>We always imagine our baseball heroes being older or more mature than us. >>



    Kevin Brown - mature??? Have I missed something? Good riddance.
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  • << <i>I think Kevin Brown retired the day he signed with the Yankees. >>

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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Kevin Brown was mature? When did I miss that happening?
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    I see he is not well loved here. Amazing. Yes, he has made a few mistakes, but he is not a jerk....

    I rate him at the same level as David Cone and Doc Gooden as far as their baseball talent and accomplishments go. I think Cone and Brown would be the best pitchers not to make the HOF.

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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Why would he be loved?

    He's an arrogant jerk who shoved a camera man to the turf, and we are supposed to think of this guy as mature?

    And it's funny you mention him in the same breath as Doc Gooden, another real winner.

  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    Kenny Rogers did that thing with the camera man!
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>I see he is not well loved here. Amazing. Yes, he has made a few mistakes, but he is not a jerk.... >>





    I dont know where you were for this guys career, but he is and always has been a first class jerk. Moody, prone to temper tantrums and depression, and not love one bit by teammates or coaches.......as for him being one of the best pitchers not to make the hall, that is a stretch to say the least. I wouldnt even put him in the top 20 to not be HOF caliber, attitude not withstanding.
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  • zef204zef204 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭


    << <i>Kenny Rogers did that thing with the camera man! >>

    True. Axtell was just spouting off at the mouth again.
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  • While I agree with the "jerk" opinions of KevinBrown, I believe the OPs point was that he's getting older, and the baseball guys, now, don't hold the sentimentality as they once did.

    DG - we've all been there. I understand whatchur' saying. And you're right, it's not like when we were kids. It is difficult to "see" the players as we once did.

    I still enjoy the game, and the "good" players out there. At some point you'll realize (if you haven't yet) that team can take a backseat to following the "classy" players.......although it's damn hard for me to cheer for any Yankeesimage

    Good Luck !

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  • TheThrill22TheThrill22 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭
    Kevin Brown did compete hard, but he was one of the biggest tools the game has ever seen. I'm glad he is gone.
  • I don't know anything about Brown's personality, so I won't comment on that. But, in my humble opinion, Jim Kaat, Bert Blyleven, Tommy John and Jack Morris are much more deserving of Hall of Fame induction than him.

  • Writer11, amen to that.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


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    << <i>Kenny Rogers did that thing with the camera man! >>

    True. Axtell was just spouting off at the mouth again. >>



    Huh?
  • PetescornerPetescorner Posts: 1,220 ✭✭
    I seem to remember Brown busting up a bathroom or two with a baseball bat.

    When he was with the Marlins, it was a pleasure to watch him pitch, though. He brought a real intensity to every game. He just couldn't leave it on the field sometimes.


  • << <i>I seem to remember Brown busting up a bathroom or two with a baseball bat.

    When he was with the Marlins, it was a pleasure to watch him pitch, though. He brought a real intensity to every game. He just couldn't leave it on the field sometimes. >>



    Then there was the year that Brown punch a wall one year and went on the DL for about half the season.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Kevin Brown has always been a jerk of the highest magnitude. Even if he had a few good years back with the Dodgers, who cares anymore? Don't let the door hit you on the way out Kevin.

    I don't get this thread though - "Kevin Brown retires on Feb 20, 2006"...he announced this already last month? I never heard anything about it. Shows how little most people care about this big news.
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  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    Guys,

    I am not knocking any of your opinions, but I am just surprised and baffled by it. I don't know the man personally and I doubt that most of us on here do either. I never heard anything bad about the guy until he punched his hand on the wall and broke it giving the Yankees one less option in pitching. I know it bothered alot of people, but I cannot knock the guy for being that passionate and care so much about doing well. He was actually doing pretty good prior to that hand smashing incident. It was truely disappointing when it happened. I was very upset as he would have ended up with a good season and helped the Yankees far into the post season.



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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>I never heard anything bad about the guy until he punched his hand on the wall and broke it giving the Yankees one less option in pitching. >>



    Then you clearly had blinders on about this guy. He has always had a reputation for being surly, and for being a major jerk who was bad for team chemistry. That is why so many people laughed when Steinbrenner threw so much money at him, especially at his advanced age. In any event, good riddance Kevin.
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  • PetescornerPetescorner Posts: 1,220 ✭✭


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    << <i>I never heard anything bad about the guy until he punched his hand on the wall and broke it giving the Yankees one less option in pitching. >>



    Then you clearly had blinders on about this guy. He has always had a reputation for being surly, and for being a major jerk who was bad for team chemistry. That is why so many people laughed when Steinbrenner threw so much money at him, especially at his advanced age. In any event, good riddance Kevin. >>



    I'm not sure Brown was bad for team chemistry. He was a hothead, but I think he was respected as a teammate. I remember one game when he was pitching for the Marlins. The opposing pitcher (I'm pretty sure it was Pedro Astacio) hit Marlin, Greg Colbrunn in the head. The next inning Astacio came to bat and Brown threw a fastball right behind his ear. Not the most sportsman-like thing to do, but definitely appreciated by his teammates for protecting them, I'm sure.
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    When people don't like a guy, it is easier to downplay his athletic accomplishments too.

    There are a lot of passionate responses against Brown. I guess those who dislike Brown make themselves heard on this thread. I wish I could see people that are less biased give there evaluation on his career.

    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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