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Disection of #1 Registry 1969 Topps Super sale

WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
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Well, the first round is over. Below are the results of numbers 1-16 of my ex-top set. All cards and pops are PSA 10.

No Name Price PSA 9 SMR % POP

# 01 Dave McNally 1439.14 50 2878 3
# 02 Frank Robinson 382.00 375 102 16
# 03 Brooks Robinson 1430.05 300 477 2
# 04 Ken Harrelson 147.50 50 295 15
# 05 Carl Yastrzemski 1102.00 400 276 5
# 06 Ray Culp 123.45 50 247 13
# 07 Jim Fregosi 147.04 50 294 9
# 08 Rick Reichardt 125.95 50 252 18
# 09 Vic Davalillo 382.77 50 766 6
# 10 Luis Aparicio 237.50 200 119 14
# 11 Pete Ward 137.50 50 275 9
# 12 Joe Horlen 125.95 50 252 14
# 13 Luis Tiant 142.50 50 285 18
# 14 Sam McDowell 228.49 50 457 12
# 15 Jose Cardinal 125.95 50 252 19
# 16 Willie Horton 140.38 50 281 18

6418.17 1875 342


I think this to be an interesting set of data for:

1. Non-SMR listed cards at grade
2. Population effect
3. Study on a non-mainstream set
4. Break potential of sets


Comments?
Wondo

Comments

  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Wondo,

    I don't keep up with the prices in this set anymore but I would consider these to be very strong prices.

    I bid on all cards I did not have a 10 in which was over half and won just one card. Someone must have been trying to keep the Davalillo out of my hands.

    Don't know what you paid Bob for the set but it looks like you will make a handsome profit on your flip of this set.

    In this case, it pays to buy a set and turn around quickly break it piece by piece.

    Jim
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Jim,

    Initial bids do seem strong. I have about 29k into the set. The Davalillo was the strongest bid card, save the McNally - pop is third lowest, but not ridiculous.

    It will be interesting to see what the Marichal and the other superlow PSA10 pop go for.

    Thank you for your interest in the set; I recognize you as an advanced collector.


    I will continue to post results.

    John
    Wondo

  • FuzzFuzz Posts: 903
    There used to be a note in the grade definition section of the older SMR's (it has since been replaced by a blurb on a seperate topic) that discussed values of cards in PSA 10 for vintage material. Basically it references that a vintage low pop card in PSA 10 should be worth somewhere between 2x and 5x the same card in PSA 9. From what I see, your general results fit pretty much in line with that. The lower pop cards in general move to the higher end of the range and the higher pop cards move to the lower end of the range.
    Drug test the guys going after the McNally, but not the B. Robinson (is that pop 2 correct?).
    There have been complaints over the last several years about some star cards in high grade dramitically falling in price. What I noticed about the cards under dicussion, was the PSA 9 price had been ten to twenty times the PSA 8 price at the peak. They are moving back towards the 2X to 5X range that had been mentioned. The exceptions are pop one cards that have stayed pop one and very low pop cards that are very very popular but generally this rule has got them all. It seems that that little seemingly low value guideline has had great forecasting ability when applied to the market. Whoever noticed that and put it in deserves a pat on the back for a true hobby insight.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    "I recognize you as an advanced collector"(Wondo)

    Ha--I don't have an ego John but that kind of praise will get me to bid twice as much on the next lot.

    Dav

  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"I recognize you as an advanced collector"(Wondo)

    Ha--I don't have an ego John but that kind of praise will get me to bid twice as much on the next lot.

    Dav >>




    Good one, Jim.... lol


    John
    Wondo

  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    John,

    WOW--you have got what every seller dreams of--Charlie Merkel dedicated to achieving a 10.0 set and another serious bidder alongside him.

    $541.87 for the pop 9 Camilo Pascual are you kidding me!!!

    $587.87 for the pop 5 Rick Monday???

    Selling the set piece by piece is proving to be a wise financial move.

    At these prices, I am just picking up the crumbs(but I am bidding up your winners).

    Jim
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Round2

    No Name Price PSA 9 SMR % POP

    #17 Denny McLain Detroit Tigers PSA 10 $194.91 50 390 12

    #18 Bill Freehan Detroit Tigers PSA 10 $128.00 50 256 14

    #19 Harmon Killebrew, Twins - PSA 10 $460.00 250 184 14

    #20 Tony Oliva, Minnesota Twins PSA 10 $152.52 50 305 25

    #21 Dean Chance Minnesota Twins PSA 10 $382.41 50 765 6

    #22 Joe Foy, Kansas City Royals PSA 10 $171.51 50 343 25

    #23 Roger Nelson, KC Royals - PSA 10 $154.50 50 309 7

    #24 Mickey Mantle, NY Yankees - PSA 10 $5,778.90 2400 241 8

    #25 Mel Stottlemyre, NY Yankees PSA 10 $180.27 50 361 12

    #26 Roy White, NY Yankees - PSA 10 $213.61 50 427 12

    #27 Rick Monday, Oakland As - PSA 10 $581.87 50 1164 5

    #28 Reggie Jackson, Oakland As PSA 10 $1,802.00 800 225 12

    #29 Bert Campaneris, Oakland As PSA 10 $128.50 50 257 10

    #30 Frank Howard, Senators - PSA 10 $139.50 50 279 11

    #31 Camilo Pascual, Senators - PSA 10 $541.87 50 1084 9

    #32 Tommy Davis, Seattle Pilots PSA 10 $169.50 50 339 6


    11179.87 4100 273





    Wondo

  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Jim,

    I was surprised at the levels to be sure. I think the HOFs are the bargains!!

    Thanks for bidding - I will keep posting results.
    Wondo

  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    John,

    Yeah--the Mantle at $5,800 is a real bargain.

    Good luck.

    Jim
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Yeah--the Mantle at $5,800 is a real bargain. >>




    Jim,

    Too bad there isn't a sarcastic emoticon. image
    Wondo

  • flatfoot816flatfoot816 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭
    thanks for taking the time to post the results. I was tracking them since I saw your initial post about breaking the set. I am about 9 cards short of a PSA-9 set...never will get to the loft you guys are, but hey, my vintage wax collection eats up too much $$.

    Manny(mams)
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭


    << <i>thanks for taking the time to post the results. I was tracking them since I saw your initial post about breaking the set. I am about 9 cards short of a PSA-9 set...never will get to the loft you guys are, but hey, my vintage wax collection eats up too much $$.

    Manny(mams) >>




    Manny,

    You are welcome - its always interesting to see how a set will break. I am really pleased with the listing that Carl has done. He' really a coin guy, but his 100% feedback and organization outweigh the potential familiarity concerns. Any comments on on the listing themselves would be appreciated. Thanks.


    John
    Wondo

  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Round #3

    No Name Price PSA 9 SMR % POP

    #48 Rusty Staub Montreal Expos PSA 10 $156.00 50 312 15

    #47 Tom Haller - LA Dodgers - PSA 10 $157.50 50 315 11

    #46 Don Drysdale - LA Dodgers - PSA 10 $405.25 300 135 17

    #45 Willie Davis - LA Dodgers - PSA 10 $262.00 50 524 8

    #44 Curt Blefary Houston Astros PSA 10 $104.50 50 209 22

    #43 Jim Wynn - Houston Astros - PSA 10 $124.72 50 249 13

    #42 Joe Morgan - Houston Astros PSA 10 $338.33 300 128 18

    #41 Pete Rose - Cincinnati Reds PSA 10 $1,380.00 900 153 15

    #40 Tommy Helms Cincinnati Reds PSA 10 $707.54 50 1414 4

    #39 Billy Williams Chicago Cubs PSA 10 $535.00 200 268 3

    #38 Ronald Santo - Chicago Cubs PSA 10 $159.60 50 319 24

    #37 Fergie Jenkins Chicago Cubs PSA 10 $282.77 175 162 9

    #36 Joe Torre - Atlanta Braves PSA 10 $104.50 50 209 12

    #35 Felipe Alou Atlanta Braves PSA 10 $104.50 50 209 17

    #34 Hank Aaron - Atlanta Braves PSA 10 $1,469.00 875 168 18

    #33 Don Mincher Seattle Pilots PSA 10 $104.50 50 209 10



    6395.71 3200 200







    Wondo

  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Sorry John--I will try to do better in that next stage--so far I have won 1 card in each section.....but have been bidding on most 10s I needed.

    Jim
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sorry John--I will try to do better in that next stage--so far I have won 1 card in each section.....but have been bidding on most 10s I needed.

    Jim >>




    Jim,

    Thanks!!! I hope you are filling out your set. This last round really had very few low pops. The final has the Seaver, Wills, Marichal and McCovey. It should be interesting.

    John
    Wondo

  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    Thanks for the bids Jim, and thanks everybody else too!

    I thought that Pete Rose should have gone for at least double what it did. That group shows that snipers don't always get the best deals. Many of those prices were hanging out there for a long time. My congrats to those who did step up to the plate.
    Carl's Coins website w/ links to Carl's auctions
  • GlynRParsonGlynRParson Posts: 364
    I have bid on a number of the cards but cant seem to win any of them. i have always loved this set for some reason.image
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    OK,

    Round #3 data is cleaned up. I was surprised at the Aaron and Rose, but POP seems to be the overriding force in this auction.


    Totals after 36 cards:


    Gross: $ 23993.75

    PSA 9 SMR: $9175.00

    %: 262



    The final 18 cards go off with several low pop cards - Seaver, Wills, McCovey and Marichal. There is no PSA10 Mays, but this one is the closest that I've seen. I will post final results after they come in.

    John
    Wondo

  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Getting nervous..............
    Wondo

  • spacktrackspacktrack Posts: 1,084 ✭✭
    Looks like some hefty snipes raised the totals a little this go around.
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    #49 Maurice Wills - Expos - PSA 10 $384.99 50 770 4

    #50 Cleon Jones - New York Mets PSA 10 $224.72 50 450 9

    #51 Jerry Koosman New York Mets PSA 10 $177.77 50 356 20

    #52 Tom Seaver - New York Mets PSA 10 $2,927.00 625 468 6

    #53 Rich Allen - Phillies - PSA 10 $224.72 50 450 8

    #54 Chris Short - Phillies - PSA 10 $145.71 50 291 14

    #55 Cookie Rojas - Phillies - PSA 10 $116.50 50 233 17

    #56 Mateo Alou Pittsburg Pirate PSA 10 $362.99 50 726 10

    #57 Steve Blass - Pirates - PSA 10 $338.33 50 677 10

    #58 Bob Clemente - Pirates - PSA 10 $2,146.21 925 232 7

    #59 Curt Flood - Cardinals - PSA 10 $510.02 50 1020 15

    #60 Bob Gibson St. Louis Cards PSA 10 $810.05 300 270 8

    #61 Tim McCarver - Cardinals - PSA 10 $338.95 50 677 9

    #62 Dick Selma San Diego Padres PSA 10 $169.93 50 340 6

    #63 Ollie Brown - Padres - PSA 10 $144.62 50 289 12

    #64 Juan Marichal - SF Giants - PSA 10 $1,136.11 250 454 2

    #65 Willie Mays - SF Giants - PSA 9 $667.00 875 76 32

    #66 Willie McCovey - SF Giants PSA 10 $787.77 265 293 5

    11613.39 3840 302


    Grand total: 35607.14

    SMR 9: 273

    % 273

    Wondo

  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Wondo,

    In my opinion, staggeringly strong results.

    You must be delighted.

    Jim

  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Jim,

    Yes I was delighted by the last round especially! Thank you and everyone else who participated. image

    The net profit will be about 3-4k, or a little over 10%.


    John
    Wondo

  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭


    << <i>"I recognize you as an advanced collector"(Wondo) >>



    Isn't that like saying Ted Williams was an above-average ballplayer? image
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