Poll: AT or NT Franklin??

bushmaster8

different lighting

Steve27

Where's the pic of the reverse?

bushmaster8

Notice two things:

1]The black 3d crud around LIB... almost always a sure sign of AT (Hard to see in this pic unless you enlarge it)

2]You can actually see where a liquid pooled in front of the portrait. See the toning line that mirrors the relief of the portrait a couple millimeters into the field in front of the nose & lips?

3] You would not know this from looking at this pic, but the seller of this coin has an ebay store and 80% of the coins in the store all have tone very similar to this one. Maybe he should rename his store "Doctors Office".

SUPERCARCOINS

...could you saturate and enhance the color several fold so the coin

looks as it did when the coin was posted for sale on these boards ?

morgannut2

<< <i>Notice two things:

1]The black 3d crud around LIB... almost always a sure sign of AT (Hard to see in this pic unless you enlarge it)

2]You can actually see where a liquid pooled in front of the portrait. See the toning line that mirrors the relief of the portrait a couple millimeters into the field in front of the nose & lips?

3] You would not know this from looking at this pic, but the seller of this coin has an ebay store and 80% of the coins in the store all have tone very similar to this one. Maybe he should rename his store "Doctors Office". >>


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I see the liquid-like pooling that is mentioned. But I see that on amateur dipped Morgans too, where the dip isn't washed off entirely. It shows up especially if they're stuck in the window to retone (I tried it on a rare VAM that looked stupidly white)

I'd guess these are dipped and retoned coins--even maybe a sunlight 2 week job to hide the dipping. Definately not typical Cellophane mint set toning IMHO.

Shamika

Looks NT to me. At the very least, it's "market acceptable".

Myqqy

It looks like dull, natural toning to me......

The black 3d crud around LIB... almost always a sure sign of AT

I don't understand this at all....

bushmaster8

Certain doctoring processes leave 3 dimensional (raised areas) of blackish debris adhering to the coin.

One more thing, though you cant see it in my crappy pix, this coin exhibits "the haze" that often accompanies accelerated toning.

anablep

No, its NT, or market acceptable as stated by Shamika.

EJB

...........I like it, I have a few that look just about the same NT................

Bochiman

So, BM, did you AT it yourself? Did you see it ATed?
Or, are you just going by known "tells"?

bushmaster8

Just a VERY strong suspicion.

SUPERCARCOINS

...........So thats the ticket now is it ;

artificialy tone/doctor a coin and then post some pix of

it here on these boards........... ??

SUPERCARCOINS

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different lighting

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take a real good look at the pix of this pig you sold me Farmer-

you said you resubmitted it in hopes of getting a 66 grade .......

Take a REAL good look - are you out of your freaking mind ??????