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Spotting after slabbing.. Take a look at this.

TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
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This is a 1964 PR69 CAM in a PCGS holder. Now obviously PCGS would not have given this coin a PR69 with these hidious spots. Has this happened to anyone else before, and what can be done about it?

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    It's a common problem with these.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    PS: No, nothing can be done now. Once the spots develop, they are there to stay.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • carlcarl Posts: 2,054 ✭
    Possibly the spots are on the plastic?
    Possibly PCGS graded the spots as a PR69 and the coin also is a PR69.
    I would think sending it back may get an answer or they may take it out, sand it and send it back as damaged.
    Carl
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    Yes the 64's do spot...........................image
    ......Larry........image
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    I've seen that a lot with kennedys and the proof franklins....... it's really a shame when the coins are gem prior to spotting..... image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    BTW, does the cert number start with a 7?

    Russ, NCNE
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  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    Cert Number 72924329
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  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    Is that one you made Russ?
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  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭


    << <i>BTW, does the cert number start with a 7?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yes.....The spotting is not on the slab....on the coin ....but not nearly as bad as the one in the picture........and only on the non cam.
    ......Larry........image
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    Sorry to see this. Need to send in under the "Grade Guarantee". PCGS made me whole on a 1957 PR68 CAM Franklin that turned in the holder and I have three coins at PCGS right now waiting on results. Takes "Forever".image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is that one you made Russ? >>



    Nope. Mine don't develop spots. The 7 means it's from a dealer bulk submission. These are more prone to spotting because they come right out of the sets and in for submission with no effort at surface stabilization.

    Edited to add: I should say mine don't develop spotting these days. Some of my early submitted coins did until I learned the hard way that it was a good idea to stabilize the surfaces before submitting.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    image Ouch!!!
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • ChuckCChuckC Posts: 1,600
    How do the spots develop? What causes the reaction? Is it PVC?
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Is that one you made Russ? >>



    Nope. Mine don't develop spots. The 7 means it's from a dealer bulk submission. These are more prone to spotting because they come right out of the sets and in for submission with no effort at surface stabilization.

    Edited to add: I should say mine don't develop spotting these days. Some of my early submitted coins did until I learned the hard way that it was a good idea to stabilize the surfaces before submitting.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    russ, on those early subs were using those pcgs poly bags? Those things caused me all kinds of problems, which disappeared after i stopped using them
    image

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    "Is it PVC?"
    Nope.
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  • PreTurbPreTurb Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭
    Russ,

    Does this also qualify as "A good example of why it's stupid to buy conditionally rare moderns"?


  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    Was that thing stored in a gun safe?
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How long after dipping will the coin develop spots, days...weeks...months...years? Kinda looks like mold.
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How do the spots develop? What causes the reaction? Is it PVC? >>



    I think it's that sea air in Newport Beach!!!image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • TopcoinTopcoin Posts: 143
    Russ,
    How do you stabilize the surfaces?
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ,

    Does this also qualify as "A good example of why it's stupid to buy conditionally rare moderns"? >>



    a) This is not a conditionally rare modern. Cameos are common as dirt for this coin. b) He's going to net a nice profit from the grade guarantee because he bought it way below market value. c) Did you have a point?

    Russ, NCNE
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  • KipKip Posts: 852


    << <i>Russ,
    How do you stabilize the surfaces? >>



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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Is that a thumb print on the back of the neck?
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is that a thumb print on the back of the neck? >>



    Nope. It's a characteristic of the die that's most prominent on well struck examples.



    << <i>Russ,
    How do you stabilize the surfaces? >>



    Just a standard quick dip to remove any hidden surface contaminants.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
    Would a final rinse in alcohol contribute to stability?
  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    Got a call today... they are going to honor the grade guarantee and compensate me... I am happy overall image

    And also send me the coin back raw image
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