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If you consign coins For Sale to someone, and then find out they are blocking....

ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529
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.... a potential customer from bidding for nothing more than petty personal reasons, which will most likely cost you money, how would you feel?

How much money do you think this scenario might cost you?

Is your seller doing this in your best interests?





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  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    Gotta think if they r blocked it aint petty.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    define petty. did the seller lose money in the process with this petty
    offender?
  • TACloughTAClough Posts: 1,598 ✭
    If you picked someone to sell your coins for you, why did you pick that person? If you trust them to handle your coins, shouldn't you also trust their judgement? Dosen't one go with the other? The seller that is cosigning your coins probable has reasons to block someone, I think you should truct them or find someone else to sell for you.

    Tim
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    I think terms of consignment should be discussed before, not after, consigning.
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  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529


    << <i>I think terms of consignment should be discussed before, not after, consigning. >>



    What if you were the blocked bidder ?

  • TACloughTAClough Posts: 1,598 ✭
    Let me see if I got this right? Mr. "A" has asked Mr. "B" to sell his coins for him. MR. "B" agreed to handle the coins and listed them on eBay. Mr."B" has his reputation to protect, so he has blocked the owner (Mr. "A") from bidding on the coins an running up the price. If the owner wanted to bid on the coins, why did he have them listed with someone else in the first place? image
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    You can still bid on my cards anytime!image


    If I consigned something to someone to hock for me I would assume that they would have only the necessary people blocked from bidding to save both of us any potential hassle with a sale.

    Necessary people would be ones that members on here point out as non paying, etc....or ones that we've had our own horrible experiences with.

    It sounds like you are driving at that someone on here has you blocked from bidding for what you believe to be a petty reason and you would like to bid on his/her coin(s) or wares but are unable. When I sell on ebay, whether coins or cards, many bids and some winning bidders are at times from these very boards. There is no way to tell you how much this might affect a listing money wise but blocking members of these boards certainly has the potential.
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think terms of consignment should be discussed before, not after, consigning. >>



    image

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  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529


    << <i>Let me see if I got this right? Mr. "A" has asked Mr. "B" to sell his coins for him. MR. "B" agreed to handle the coins and listed them on eBay. Mr."B" has his reputation to protect, so he has blocked the owner (Mr. "A") from bidding on the coins an running up the price. If the owner wanted to bid on the coins, why did he have them listed with someone else in the first place? image >>



    You're so far off it hardly warrants a response.

  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    Is this closer? The seller to whom the coins are consigned, whose name starts with "R", has you blocked?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What your asking is if it is OK to shill your own coins?
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  • flashbangflashbang Posts: 134
    If I sent coins to someone else to sell for me it would be their choice as to who to sell it to or not. If there were certain people I did or didnt want to bid, it would be discussed beforehand.

    In a different scenario, if someone consigned coins(person 1) to another person(person 2) and person 1 told the person 2 to block my bids I wouldnt hold that against the person 1, as that is actually a personal issue, but I would have issues with person 2 for taking on such practices. If person 2 meant nothing to me, I'd figure screw em both and I would have a nice day.

    If I was the seller having the coins onsigned to me, I would say who does or doesnt bid or the person should find someone else to sell for them.

    I tried to cover each scenario as it was a bit hard to distinguish image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this closer? The seller to whom the coins are consigned, whose name starts with "R", has you blocked?

    That was my guess.

    I have consigned coins to be sold by a small handful of sellers, and I trust them all to handle my consignment in a professional manner. I do not worry about petty details.
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭


    << <i>Is this closer? The seller to whom the coins are consigned, whose name starts with "R", has you blocked? >>

    heh heh heh, good one, Bill.
  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭


    << <i>.... a potential customer from bidding for nothing more than petty personal reasons, which will most likely cost you money, how would you feel?

    How much money do you think this scenario might cost you?

    Is your seller doing this in your best interests? >>



    Oh yeah, it may not be "petty" and "personal" as you might like to think.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I conigned coins a few times in the past and was more concerned about the sellers either jacking up the prices to the point where they would not sell or where they would take off with the coins
    (thanks Beavertown Coin!). The least of my worries would be blocking a bidder or refusing offers from unreliable sources. Sometimes in the coin biz, even the most "trustworthy and recommended dealers" can screw you. Consignor beware!

    roadrunner
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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would only consign coins to a seller who has high integrity. If that seller has issues with others - so be it. That is the nature of the game. I would never expect a seller to compromise their integrity by agreeing to accept bids from people he/she has had problems with in the past.

    If you have had issues with a seller, why are you giving that seller your business? It must be that the seller has an item you have to have. Seems to me an easy way out is to find someone to place a bid for you and complete the transaction as your agent.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    ss350camero - how do you know the coins you can not bid are not owned by the seller who is blocking your bids?
  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529


    << <i>What your asking is if it is OK to shill your own coins? >>



    No, in the described situation i am not the owner of the coins.


    What i'm asking is if a person consigns coins to a service to be sold, and the consignee blocks a potential customer who the consignee alone has a personal problem with, does that possibly hurt the consignors monetarily ? Keep in mind that the consignee has no experience with the possible bidder other than a personal, non monetary, disagreement. On a purely business level there is no logical reason to block this bidder. The possible bidders researchable auction and payment history is basically flawless.

    Payment (same day with good funds) would never be an issue, therefore it seems to me that the consignee is doing his clients a disservice, and costing them money.

    True or false?

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I wasn't going to bother to respond to this tripe, but since the Pathetic One decided he needed more attention and bumped the thread I will.

    You're blocked because I have no desire to do business with crybabies who feel compelled to whine on a public forum about every petty little BS event in their life. Frankly, I don't trust people like that.

    BTW, you've been blocked for quite some time. Since you just now realized it, I don't anticipate losing any sleep over all that revenue I missed out on. image

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529


    << <i>I wasn't going to bother to respond to this tripe, but since the Pathetic One decided he needed more attention and bumped the thread I will.

    You're blocked because I have no desire to do business with crybabies who feel compelled to whine on a public forum about every petty little BS event in their life. Frankly, I don't trust people like that.

    BTW, you've been blocked for quite some time. Since you just now realized it, I don't anticipate losing any sleep over all that revenue I missed out on. image

    Russ, NCNE >>




    You've made quite a few assumptions here.


  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If Russ is off base, then name names. Don't play games.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    I grasp why Russ has SS blocked, but I can't tell why SS is upset right now... image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't we all just get along?

    -Rodney King

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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    image


    It is the Worm, Maud'Dib!
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • DarkmaneDarkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
    i need a popcorn icon. i find russ, kennedy, and even accented hair a bit odd.... but interesting/amusing nonetheless
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    btw....to answer the original question......

    As a person who consigns to someone else to sell my stuff......I would knowingly be ok with the premise listed.
    The reason is that I am asking someone else to put their reputation on the line for me. Therefore, I don't have a right to be pissy if they want to preclude certain people with whom they may expect to experience problems with.

    If I didn't like it, I would negotiate pulling the items and paying a fee to the seller. However, I doubt very many people would have problems with the seller having people blocked, even if for personal reasons. The seller doesn't need to worry about a negative just for a sale.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529
    Funny how i haven't mentioned any names in this thread, but quite a few people have made assumptions. Even the self absorbed head spitball has come out with his usual vitriolic garbage.


    The question was really rather simplistic in nature, and It did not name anyone in particular.



    I'd add a laughing smiley here, but it's really not that funny.

  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    ss350camaro,

    Please quit playing the whole "you people sure are making a lot of assumptions" card, you know full well when you posted this that it was about what everyone is assuming. This is your standard modus operandi.
    Mr. Thigpen

    Self Indulgence | Holey Coins | Flickr Photostream
  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    Now, as to a response to the question, I would do nothing about it. When I consign something to an individual/company, by doing so I am accepting their reputation and any negative stigma or problems which they may carry with them when it comes to their clientel.
    Mr. Thigpen

    Self Indulgence | Holey Coins | Flickr Photostream
  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529


    << <i>ss350camaro,

    Please quit playing the whole "you people sure are making a lot of assumptions" card, you know full well when you posted this that it was about what everyone is assuming. This is your standard modus operandi. >>




    dthigpen,

    You know what they say about making assumptions?

  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    ss350camaro,

    The problem is, while you adimately deny it, you are predictable 99.9% of the time. Now, feel free to backpedal and prove us all wrong by finding another similar situation and posting the details of it to satiate your desire to present an image of unpredictability. You can only use the same modus operandi so many times before people start accepting it as a factual character reference.
    Mr. Thigpen

    Self Indulgence | Holey Coins | Flickr Photostream
  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529


    << <i>ss350camaro,

    The problem is, while you adimately deny it, you are predictable 99.9% of the time. Now, feel free to backpedal and prove us all wrong by finding another similar situation and posting the details of it to satiate your desire to present an image of unpredictability. You can only use the same modus operandi so many times before people start accepting it as a factual character reference. >>



    dthigpen,

    Do you have anything more to offer on the subject as asked ?





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