Overton fourth edition

Lahcoin

Anyone get the new book yet and be willing to give a personal comparison to the third edition ...or....review it on its own? Better photos?....close ups?.....guestimate on how many new discoveries....little extras like 'Bust Half Fever' gives? Details, man, details. The only info I can find is the stock info from sellers: author, edition, pages, etc.

Speaking of 'Bust Half Fever by E. E. Sounders', what a wonderful read. I would recommend it to any bust half enthusiasts as a 'must have'. I'm only about half way through it now and am thoroughly enjoying it. Maybe I'll give details when finished(although my writing skills suck).

PreTurb

Some new die varieties and sub-varieties (good)
Lower resolution photos than 3rd edition (bad)
Condition census not updated well in the 1794-1807 section (bad)

I'm not really impressed - IMO, the "very minimum" was done to get this book out. So much more could have been added to make it a more "complete" work.

JRocco

<< <i>Some new die varieties and sub-varieties (good)
Lower resolution photos than 3rd edition (bad)
Condition census not updated well in the 1794-1807 section (bad)

I'm not really impressed - IMO, the "very minimum" was done to get this book out. So much more could have been added to make it a more "complete" work. >>



I agree 100%. Let me add also that the photo's are minimum to say the least.
"Bust Half Fever" is a really really good reference and an easy read.

CoinAddict

Since we are somewhat on the subject of "Bust Half Fever by E. E. Sounders' I was wondering if anyone has used the Digital Ver 1.1 of the book for the computer. It is half the price of the hard back version at $35 compared to $80 and I was wondering what the people that have it think of it.

slumlord98

Haven't seen Edgar's new BHF, but it is an excellent work from all I've heard. The new Overton is not, however. The only reason I can imagine that Don did a fourth edition was to help preserve Al O's numbering system, which was pretty much just taken from Beistle.

This new book is chock full of errors that a competent proofreader would have caught, lots of really minor stuff. Some new die states were added that didn't need to be, and some were added over top ones created by the BHNC, which really makes a mess. Don does nothing to address the issue of emission sequence, instead he merely repeats the lame disclaimer from the 3rd edition. He used some wrong rarity ratings, there are wrong pictures included with text. These are in addition to what PreTurb has listed. If you own a copy of the 3rd edition, no need to spend your money for this one. If you don't own a copy of the 3rd edition, by all means, buy a copy. It is still the book for learning about bust halves. Just stay tuned for an update, perhaps by the BHNC, of all the corrections to come.

Cladiator

I was truely excited when the 4th edition arrived on my doorstep. It's been a few days now and I've had time to thouroughly go through the book. I can say that the problems mentioned already in this thread are totally valid. Honestly, a bit dissapointing.

mozin

<< <i>Haven't seen Edgar's new BHF, but it is an excellent work from all I've heard. The new Overton is not, however. The only reason I can imagine that Don did a fourth edition was to help preserve Al O's numbering system, which was pretty much just taken from Beistle.

This new book is chock full of errors that a competent proofreader would have caught, lots of really minor stuff. Some new die states were added that didn't need to be, and some were added over top ones created by the BHNC, which really makes a mess. Don does nothing to address the issue of emission sequence, instead he merely repeats the lame disclaimer from the 3rd edition. He used some wrong rarity ratings, there are wrong pictures included with text. These are in addition to what PreTurb has listed. If you own a copy of the 3rd edition, no need to spend your money for this one. If you don't own a copy of the 3rd edition, by all means, buy a copy. It is still the book for learning about bust halves. Just stay tuned for an update, perhaps by the BHNC, of all the corrections to come. >>



I had my 4th now for 12 days. After going through the Capped Bust Half section and comparing it with BHNC information, I am sorry to say I would not buy the 4th if I had it to do over. Since I received my 4th, I still find myself grabbing the 3rd to attribute CBHs. The number of errors, poor pictures, and lack of plus or minus for rarity ratings is a real hassle.

There are plenty of used 3rd editions out there at bargain prices, and with better pictures. Maybe there will be a second printing of the 4th just to make corrections. Of course, that means all the first printings need to be sold first.

DaveG

I recently spoke to a Bust Half Nut who told me that the fourth edition did not incorporate any of the work (new discoveries, revised rarity ratings, etc.) that the Bust Half Nut Club had done since the 3rd edition came out.

Lahcoin

CoinAddict:

If price is the main factor determining whether you get a copy of BHF, then most definately get the digitized version. I bought the book because of the freedom it gives like reading it when lying on the couch, waiting for a Dr. appointment, flight, etc.....BUT.....I did ponder whether to get the digital version for when I'm sitting at the 'command center'. What I'm basically saying, is if you love bust halves....get a copy....either version, whatever is most convenient. I assume they are the same(maybe I shouldn't assume) but if you get the digital one and are not satisfied with it I will gladly buy it off you(sincere offer).

All Others:

I'm bummed. Thanks for the imput on the 4th edition and for saving me some money for another 'crusty' instead. I guess I'll just arm myself with Overton 3rd, BHF, and 'The Ultimate Guide to Attributing BH Dollars.

slumlord98

<< <i> recently spoke to a Bust Half Nut who told me that the fourth edition did not incorporate any of the work (new discoveries, revised rarity ratings, etc.) that the Bust Half Nut Club had done since the 3rd edition came out. >>



DaveG,

I have no idea who you talked to, but that isn't correct. Don added all the new die marriages to the 4th, including 1806 O.129. He also made an attempt at changing some rarity ratings, but made some egrigious mistakes, things that would have been noticed if he had hired someone to proofread the text.

sl

Cladiator

<< <i>including 1806 O.129. >>

Yeah that was cool

DaveG

slumlord98,

Unfortunately, I only know his first name (and he's not a poster here) and, of course, I don't know how well informed he was.

I'm not a Bust Half Nut, so I've never looked into this (the differences between Overton and the BHNC) in detail, but I have noticed that navigating among the egos of members of specialty clubs can be like trying to get through a minefield.

I guess I'll just be happy with my copy of Bust Half Fever and leave it at that!

Peekboou

Anyone have a link to purchase this?
J

Lahcoin

I did google up this....

stanton books

don't know if it's the best price you can get(hope the link works -- first attempt)

PreTurb

Actually, there are not a lot of "egos" among the BHNC. The term "egos" makes me think of people who put their self interests before the facts. To their credit, the BHNC very strongly relies on the FACTS.

mozin

<< <i>Actually, there are not a lot of "egos" among the BHNC. The term "egos" makes me think of people who put their self interests before the facts. To their credit, the BHNC very strongly relies on the FACTS. >>


I will second that, and that is a fact.

Baley

made some egrigious mistakes

I'm disappointed.

michael

man i was going to buy the fourth ed

i will now pass

now i will just keep my third ed

thanks for the heads up

do you think the third ed will continue to be valuable and used even if a corrected ed comes out??

as i got half a dozen of them i picked them up at a good price .........................serendipity

OnlyBuffalos

Given the hype, the anticipation of something better than the 3rd edition, and the long delay, this edition is a loser. Plus the paper used is cheaper than that used in previous editions. Thumbs down.