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Whats the grade? 1914-D 2.5 Indian

robster16robster16 Posts: 46
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I want to sell this indian on ebay, and i would like some opinions on what the grade is.
For me gold indians are so hard to grade.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>For me gold indians are so hard to grade. >>



    You could probably check the label.

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  • robster16robster16 Posts: 46
    Its a raw coin, its not graded
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    What kind of holder is that?

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  • robster16robster16 Posts: 46
    its in a plastic square holder

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    That isn't sliding around inside the holder, is it?

    As for grade, it looks nice, but the images are a little small.

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  • robster16robster16 Posts: 46
    No, i just placed it on top of the holder to take pictures instead of putting on the table.
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That isn't sliding around inside the holder, is it?

    As for grade, it looks nice, but the images are a little small.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yeah, blow up the images and check the label.image
    Have somebody check the D mintmark to make sure it's not bogus. Also, this coin has a polished look to it.
    If it's authentic and hasn't been cleaned, it has a lot of detail. Very possibly MS60-62.
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  • dan383dan383 Posts: 812
    Looks like ex-jewelery.............



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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,062 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like ex-jewelery.............



    Dan >>

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    See the indented line all the way around the edge on both sides? That's what a jewelry or keychain bezel will do.
  • jomjom Posts: 3,449 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>See the indented line all the way around the edge on both sides? That's what a jewelry or keychain bezel will do. >>



    However, often that is an indication of the die breaking. Especially on the incuse gold....in this case it is almost too much though.

    The picture it is difficult to tell but the luster (oddly) looks natural....it might be a very good fake (counterfeit).

    jom
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a nice lustrous coin. These are heavily counterfeited so you need to get it slabbed if you want to sell for maximum price. Don't worry about an added D mintmark. This is a common date. Its the 1911-D that is the rare date and they have been know to have added mint marks.




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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,349 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Looks like ex-jewelery.............



    Dan >>

    image
    See the indented line all the way around the edge on both sides? That's what a jewelry or keychain bezel will do. >>



    That indented line is indicative of die erosion on a late die state struck coin. I don't see any evidence of jewelry use from the pics but it may look differnt in hand.








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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,062 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Looks like ex-jewelery.............



    Dan >>

    image
    See the indented line all the way around the edge on both sides? That's what a jewelry or keychain bezel will do. >>



    That indented line is indicative of die erosion on a late die state struck coin. I don't see any evidence of jewelry use from the pics but it may look differnt in hand. >>

    interesting.
  • robster16robster16 Posts: 46
    Thanks for all the feedback
  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Been in a bezel.
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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    From what I can see I would say it's counterfiet from the picture. Send it in to get graded to make sure if it's real.
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Send it to ANACS. "IF" it comes back graded, you should easily be able to sell the coin and recoup your ANACS grading fees. Not many buyers for this type of raw gold unless the coin is in hand.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    The coin scares me, but if you want to sell it on eBay without somebody knocking on your door, you should send it to ANACS first.
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  • jomjom Posts: 3,449 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> From what I can see I would say it's counterfiet from the picture. Send it in to get graded to make sure if it's real. >>



    You see....I thought the same thing. Especially after I saw those examples you had.....

    jom
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    It may be the camera but the color is way wrong making it suspicous. I agree with everyone that it is at the very least what graders like to call a problem coin if it is authentic. It looks to be ex-jewelery which means it most likely was polished removing the original mint skin and most likely covering up old hairlines etc... To be valuable to collectors the coin needs to be as close to original condition as possible.

    If you want to sell it on E-bay the best thing you can do is send it to ANACS as they will put it in a slab and attribute the problems. If it is not authentic they will just send it back and it is only worth the melt price of the gold. If it is authentic you can probably get anywhere between $125-$175 on e-bay.

    Just my 2 cents.

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