1968 Topps Stargell PSA 10 - wtf?

smallstocks

Stargell

That centering isn't even good enough for a 9!!!

envoy98

I get 10 left, 8 right and that's 56/44 LR
and 9 top, 8 bottom so 53/47 TB

"The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front"

While I agree it does appear OC to the eye, it is within PSA 10 guidelines. I think the bidding will reflect the eye appeal though....

Treetop

I'm curious where this gal came up with these cards she's listed. My guess is this collection is or was at one time the HUGH ebay buyer " qualityfhorseracing" He was out of this part of Texas and spent HUGH $$$$ on cards from 1958, 1960 and 1968 (to name a few years) but disappeared a few years ago

Boy, do I miss his bidding.

Mark

Stone193

Just an OK card for a 10.

I would not be surprised if a 50/50 PSA 9 might bring the same if not more money?

mike

smallstocks

This peaves me because about a year ago I submitted about 10 1968 cards with perfect corners and edges and similar if not better centering. My grades ranged from 6 - 8. They weren't high dollar cards so I haven't resubmitted, but I am still scratching my head on those.

Stone193

<< <i>This peaves me because about a year ago I submitted about 10 1968 cards with perfect corners and edges and similar if not better centering. My grades ranged from 6 - 8. They weren't high dollar cards so I haven't resubmitted, but I am still scratching my head on those. >>


small

Did you ask for "no qualifiers"?

mike

onefasttalon

" get 10 left, 8 right and that's 56/44 LR "

Huh? Are you looking at the same card? This card is worse than 56/44 LR... smallstocks, I agree that it's not well centered. I don't have any fancy micrometers to use (especially of a scan on the web) but my rough-eye-guess of this scan on the web would be roughly 65-35 at best LR. Stone, I agree, a better centered 9 might bring in the same or more money to a true collector... but that "PSA10" flip will help it bring in more I think.

Considering PSA uses "eye appeal" in grading, I'm surprised this got a 10. My guess is, this one was graded by one of those dealers that sends in thousands of cards to get graded, and gets more success than failure.

... that's my 2 cents...

envoy98

<< <i>" get 10 left, 8 right and that's 56/44 LR "

Huh? Are you looking at the same card? This card is worse than 56/44 LR... >>



No, it's not.

it's 10 pixels left, and 8 pixels right... 10/18=55.5555555556

It certainly does appear much worse than that which is why I measured it because my first impression was about 65/35 which is not in line with a 10.

I agree a dead centered 9 would probably fetch as much money as this one will bring, unless this is a Pop 1...I haven't checked. On eye appeal alone, I am surprised it received a 10.

I don't disagree it looks OC, but it's in line...ugly though it may be...

TNP777

IMO, that whole set is ugly, holdered or not. Might even be uglier'n the '70 set.



Geordie

Stone193

Josh

The on-line ruler I have - and lining up a ruler against a scan even this big is a bit of a pain - I get 12 right and 8 left - 12/8.

I would say the centering L-R is no better than 60-40.

But, I'm old and eyesight is failing!

But, just looking at the card, one can see this doesn't look any better than 60/40 IMO.

mike

envoy98

I can only get 8x magnification from that scan, and I end up with 10 & 8. Even at 12 & 8, it's still 60/40 which is in-line with a 10.

I'm not arguing that it belongs, or doesn't belong in the 10 holder, or that it's the nicest card I've seen...just that if it is 60/40 one way and 55/45 the other way...it can be in a 10 holder, that's all. For my money, I'd hold off...Unless I were just trying to have the only 10 in the set. 68's are high on my list of favs, but when they are centered, they can be nice looking IMO. I still love the Bench and Ryan RC's...so tough to find centered though.

bobsbbcards

Not to beat a dead horse, but I get 11/8 at both the top and bottom (58/42). Here's the scan with the pixels marked. I agree that the card looks off by more than that.

I think it's interesting how little a card has to be off, especially horizontally, for it to be annoying.

bobsbbcards

I was just going through some duplicates that I hadn't looked at in a billion years, and I ran across this Stargell. The gloss on the card is frighteningly nice. Maybe it's got a shot at an "11."

Stone193

<< <i>I was just going through some duplicates that I hadn't looked at in a billion years, and I ran across this Stargell. The gloss on the card is frighteningly nice. Maybe it's got a shot at an "11."

>>

Stone193

Bob

That card looks like a beauty!

Are the corners as nice as they look?

Shot at a 10?

I agree - the color is thru the roof!

Good luck if you sub it.
mike

bobsbbcards

Mike,

More likely a 9. Here's a scan of the back and the four corners (at 300dpi).

Bosox1976

That raw stargell is far more appealing - just beautiful colors.