classics to moderns, is there a "clodern"?????

pontiacinf

ponder this
in the past there have been coins considerd "transitional patterns"

now thinking on that lines, is there one coin in a particular series or in between, that happened where you feel classics ended, and moderns began...I-E the "clodern years"?

MikeInFL

The end of the Barber coins was the beginning of moderns, to me...Mike

pontiacinf

<< <i>The end of the Barber coins was the beginning of moderns, to me...Mike >>



1916...hmm wasnt or isnt there certified examples of a transitional merc dated 1916?

topstuf

Yep, the WL half and Merc dime would fit the transition between inspiring allegory and just dead presidents. Same with standing quarter.

cladking

Certainly. On many many levels. Just to get started on why the '64
fits this bill consider that it went into production in January, '64 and was
still being produced in February, '66. Not only do silver 1965 dimes and
quarters exist but there is also a clad 1964 quarter. The first SMS was ac-
tually a 1964. The Kennedy started in 1964. There was a date freeze
for 1964 and then another in 1965. There was a 1964 peace dollar. Mint-
ages for 1964 were high even by modern standards. There are silver '64
quarters struck with 1965 dies and clad 1965 quarters struck with '64 dies.

There may be dozens more tie-ins...

MAD4MORGANS

<< <i>Yep, the WL half and Merc dime would fit the transition between inspiring allegory and just dead presidents. Same with standing quarter. >>





I would think from silver to clad coins would be another transitional period.

pontiacinf

ok so theres many possibilities here. alot of people go with michaels
old addage of the 1915-16 zone, but I consider moderns starting around 1964

cladking

The '64 and '65 nickels were the last which didn't carry the designer initials.

ziggy29

The 1964-D Peace Dollar.

pontiacinf

can you guys think of any earlier transition periods, starting late 1700's to now? and what were the gold transitional periods (i have no clue on that one)

pontiacinf

<< <i>The 1964-D Peace Dollar. >>

cladking

The cent composition was changed to 5% zinc in 1962.

pontiacinf

<< <i>The cent composition was changed to 5% zinc in 1962. >>



would this also have to include the 82 lincs?

ziggy29

<< <i>can you guys think of any earlier transition periods, starting late 1700's to now? and what were the gold transitional periods (i have no clue on that one) >>

I have trouble coming up with one date range. The general transition, IMO, came with the removal of artistic, allegorical designs and the establishment of actual historical people. So you could say, with my definition, that it started as early as 1909 and wasn't complete until 1948.

So I guess you could call the era from 1909 to 1947 the "transition period" according to how I see it.

One could also make a reasonable argument that it was later, when our coinage was debased in 1965.

pontiacinf

<< <i>

<< <i>can you guys think of any earlier transition periods, starting late 1700's to now? and what were the gold transitional periods (i have no clue on that one) >>

I have trouble coming up with one date range. The general transition, IMO, came with the removal of artistic, allegorical designs and the establishment of actual historical people. So you could say, with my definition, that it started as early as 1909 and wasn't complete until 1948.

So I guess you could call the era from 1909 to 1947 the "transition period" according to how I see it.

One could also make a reasonable argument that it was later, when our coinage was debased in 1965. >>



all very good points ziggy

michael

now thinking on that lines, is there one coin in a particular series or in between, that happened where you feel classics ended, and moderns began...I-E the "clodern years"?


yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

franklin halves

pontiacinf

<< <i>now thinking on that lines, is there one coin in a particular series or in between, that happened where you feel classics ended, and moderns began...I-E the "clodern years"?


yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

franklin halves >>



I was wondering what it would take to make you popup

yes franklin halves is a very good example

rmoss

is there one coin in a particular series or in between, that happened where you feel classics ended, and moderns began...I-E the "clodern years"?


I would have to set that timeline with the Peace Dollar. It went away from the classic concept of Liberty and took on the new look of the "Roaring Twenties."

pontiacinf

peace dollar is another very good example