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So, will Wayte Raymond albums tone Lincolns in rainbow colors?

Anyone have any experience with these?

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  • Anyone?
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    i dunno....i'm slab happy!
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    I'm sitting here next to a Wayte Raymond album with Lincolns and IHCs in it. Unfortunately all but a few of the coins were cleaned. Colors? Yes. All of them desirable? I don't think so. But one looks pretty nice.

    I'm also sitting next to some rolls of Lincolns in old bank wrappers.......they look a lot more promising....but my experience may be different than others.
    Becky
  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would also like to know . . . . I collect Wayte Raymonds, 2 and 3 ring binders, National Coin Albums, pages, and Oberwise & Whitman coin boards . . . . I'd love to know if any of them actually will tone any coins. You hear a lot of buzz at shows that they DO . . . but no one comes up and says, "Hey, look what my Wayte Raymond did to these Frankies!" or the like.

    I'm going to try a new ever-so-slightly-dampened page, a small shot of sulphur dioxide gas (or car exhaust), no slides (for oxygen transfer), and placement in my garage rafters for a bit (with perhaps one test page in a sealed Ziplock) . . . then I'll let you know. If it's going to work . . . that'll be the test.

    I'll be watching your post . . . . .

    Drunner

    edited for spelling . . . English teachers are the worst . . . .
  • Drunner, give us an update with pictures if you can, when its done.
  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    10-4 . . also see PM.
  • Actually, Drunner, LucyBop has showed lots of pics of Franklins and Mercs that have been toned in Wayte Raymond albums. If you do a seach you will finds quite a few threads she has posted recently with pics of coins that have toned after being stored in those albums.image
    Here is one with a Frankllin.
    And another of a Merc.
    There are more if you want to check them out.image
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had some really pretty Lincolns come out of an old National Coin Album, if someone thinks to bump this thread tomorrow morning Ihave the pics on a disc at my office. Unfortunately, I sold the two best ones raw, before I knew they would command a nice premium in PCGS plastic.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here they are - these came out of the National Coin Album I mentioned aboce. I didn't submit either of them because they weren't much better than MS63. Boht are now long gone, set adrift on the Bay of E. BTW, these pictures were taken by a couple of lifetimes ago boardmember "craton". Jason, I still owe youa favor. image

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    Sean Reynolds

    (Edited because I posted the same pic twice. image )
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, will Wayte Raymond albums tone Lincolns in rainbow colors?

    Only on a rainy day! image

    Seriously, I don't know!

    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085
    It has been said that alot of the sulphur content contained in the old holders through aging would be gone by now. So placing coins in them today the desired effects of super toning would probably be lessened.
    A thing of beauty is a joy for ever
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It has been said that alot of the sulphur content contained in the old holders through aging would be gone by now. So placing coins in them today the desired effects of super toning would probably be lessened. >>



    it has been said, however those that are saying it need to conduct a test to check sulphur content...
    i have many boards that are brand new never used, albeit they are old, and i don' t buy the sulphur is gone bit to say the least..

    but sulphur isnt the only key, ambient O2 and ambient temp also plays a role.....

    I am having some tremendous results... now, some of my coins remain blast white while coins right next to them geting some dizzy colors, this tells me
    that the coins surface is a huge factor in the sulphur reaction process....

    my observations is coins that are blast white tend to tone faster then coins that are off white....
    my reasons for this are simple, the off white coins already have a oxidation layer, and a oxide doesn't like to grow upon itself. The rate of growth slows down considerably...

    This is/was clearly understood from my days at Intel, as we used a steam oxidation process to grow 3500 angstroms onto our wafers. The growth rate isn't a linear curve.
    we saw the most growth during the early stages and then it slowed considerably, as again, a oxide doesn't like to grow on itself. a oxide consumes its underlining surface
    as it grows....

    Silver is highly reactive, therefore coins with a higher concentration such as the Silver Eagles will tone faster given conditions that promote a oxide growth.

    HepKitty out........
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
    "Senorita HepKitty"
    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    I have a beautiful, albeit a bit dark, two-sided true rainbow still residing in a Wayte Raymond 1946 Mint Set...very PQ.

    Doug
    Visit my eBay Store to see my (mostly) overpriced Rainbow Toned PCGS/NGC coins! IshopCoinShows4You

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