Large Cent experts.... need some help...

tincup

I can really use some info from you large cent experts out there. I am not that knowledgeable on coppers, and do not have a Newcomb reference. My question concerns a 1849 Large Cent, Newcomb #25, listed in the Cherrypickers Guide, cross referenced as FS #Lg 1c - 005.

I have located a coin that has all of the markers noted in the Cherrypickers Guide. However, I am confused by one statement in the Cherrypickers Guide.... "The reverse die is not double hubbed (as seen on N-10 and 27). What exactly does this mean?

Does it mean that N-10 and 27, also have all of the markers..... but are double hubbed, and thus not as rare? In other words, are there other varieties out there that have these same markers? And what does the 'double hubbed' look like?

Or.... do these markers mean the coin is the real McCoy....?

Thanks for any info you can give me!

DeputyPud

The 1849 N-25 was delisted (kind of) because its a late state of the N-10. The N-27 has the same reverse die, with the N-27 being the later die state for this reverse.

As far as the doubling goes, the 'Attribution Guide For United States Large Cents 1840-1857' by J.R. Grellman and Jules Reiver says...
"UNITED STATES OF AME and upper half of wreath doubled".
"Doubling is not constant depending on the strength of the strike, but it is always clear on the crossbar of A in STATES."

The obverse die slowly sank, and started to crumble everywhere. On the N-25, the lump on the top of the coronet grows larger, and extends to rim.

The N-10 is an R4.

I'm not sure where the pickers guide statements come from, but then again, I've never had an N-25.
Wish I could offer more, but all I have to go on is the book.

tincup

Hey DeputyPud, thanks much for that info.

Looking closer at the coin, I can find no doubling in those areas. Certainly could find none on the 'A' crossbar or wreath. But it certainly has all of the rest of the markers, both obverse and reverse. So must be the later die state of N-10, or the N-25 if that is still a valid listing.

The 'lump' on the coronet, though, isn't really there. So...... maybe between a N-10 and N-25?

The coin I found is a nice strong XF, strong strike with full hair detail. Unfortunately, the obverse was cleaned long ago, but is retoning so doesn't look all that bad. Not that I really care that it was cleaned at one time.... a nice find!

Thanks again for that help.... this board and the members are the greatest!