Yankees and the Hall
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Enough asking if subpar Yankees belong in the hall. Guidry,Mussian, Mattingly, Rizzuto, Gossage, ........ Just because someone plays there doesn't make them hall worthy. NY just overrates everyone, Namath, Willis Reed, Patrick Ewing, Red Holzman, Reggie Jackson, Walt Frasier, Joe Torre, does it ever end. Talk about getting free passes. Joe DiMaggio was also overrated, Mickey Mantle, Don Mattingly and the biggest chump of them all Thurman Munson, all overrated.
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steve
Ya, everyone nowadays hits in 56 straight games
<< <i>Joe DiMaggio was also overrated
Ya, everyone nowadays hits in 56 straight games >>
It's well noted that in several of those games, errors were gifted to him as hits (and those were his only 'hits' in the game).
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<< <i>Joe DiMaggio was also overrated
Ya, everyone nowadays hits in 56 straight games >>
It's well noted that in several of those games, errors were gifted to him as hits (and those were his only 'hits' in the game). >>
I think it is also well noted that the streak could have been 87 games, as he went on a 30 game streak afterward as well.
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Steve
<< <i>leave it to the biggest REGUALR moron of these boards to try and validate this moronic thread created by the biggest NEW moron of these boards. >>
Look dips**t, it's historical record. Why don't you pull your head out of your arse long enough to learn some history of the game before you go running your trap?
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<< <i>leave it to the biggest REGUALR moron of these boards to try and validate this moronic thread created by the biggest NEW moron of these boards. >>
Look dips**t, it's historical record. Why don't you pull your head out of your arse long enough to learn some history of the game before you go running your trap? >>
hmmmm, did I mention YOU Axtell? Or are you always so attracted to the word "moron"?
Don't bother answering nitwit, the answer is a GIVEN.
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<< <i>Enough asking if subpar Yankees belong in the hall. Guidry,Mussian, Mattingly, Rizzuto, Gossage, ........ Just because someone plays there doesn't make them hall worthy. NY just overrates everyone, Namath, Willis Reed, Patrick Ewing, Red Holzman, Reggie Jackson, Walt Frasier, Joe Torre, does it ever end. Talk about getting free passes. Joe DiMaggio was also overrated, Mickey Mantle, Don Mattingly and the biggest chump of them all Thurman Munson, all overrated. >>
Another DIP$HIT at work
-- Yogi Berra
your attraction to me is frightening.
Just because I call out your GARBAGE and your bandwagon riding tactics don't hate me, ok?
Why don't you do a little research on the 56 game hitting streak dummy. Come back to me when you have. Until then SHUT YOUR TRAP.
<< <i>softie-
your attraction to me is frightening.
Just because I call out your GARBAGE and your bandwagon riding tactics don't hate me, ok?
Why don't you do a little research on the 56 game hitting streak dummy. Come back to me when you have. Until then SHUT YOUR TRAP. >>
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didn't I tell you to shut your yap already? Your mama's gonna wonder why you're still on the computer this late.
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You know nothing of the 'streak' other than the number of games.
When you have done a bit of research, and see the questionable calls that were given to him that could easily have been scored as errors, I'll give you permission to speak.
Until then,
QUIET.
<< <i>Please.
You know nothing of the 'streak' other than the number of games.
When you have done a bit of research, and see the questionable calls that were given to him that could easily have been scored as errors, I'll give you permission to speak.
Until then,
QUIET. >>
Joe D's streak has nothing to do with this thread. Your "astute" little analysis of Joe D's streak as nothing to do with this thread. Nothing I have said has anything to do with Joe D's streak. Somehow, you hyjacked a moronic thread and made it worse! What you did do, was stick to a moronic thread like flies on $hit, and tried to validate it.
IDIOT
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I never said Joe D wasn't a great player, I simply said that his streak has been called into question by folks with a HELL of a lot more knowledge of baseball than either you or I.
So when you decide you want to learn something, I suggest you check it out.
I hijacked the thread? I simply responded to the comment about the hitting streak, to which your 'Axtell radar' went off and you went nuts. How dare I insult a great yankee player!
So grow up, and get the hell out of here before I beat you down AGAIN on this topic.
Would it have been a hit in any other city or with an impartial scorer? For the sake of argument we will say maybe, DiMaggio’s streak might have reached 30 that day regardless of location, but it would almost certainly not have reached 31.
The next day, Game 31 of the “streak”, DiMaggio is once again hitless as he steps up for his final at bat. Again he hits a bouncer to Appling at short and again Appling is unable to handle it cleanly. This time the shortstop actually gets it with his glove first but drops the ball. Appling picks it up and throws over to first but DiMaggio beats it out. This time there is no signal from Daniel, there is no PA announcement proclaiming it either a hit or an error, and the fans are left to make up their own minds. One fan remarked later, “I thought the streak was over until I picked up the newspaper the next day.” Again Dan Daniel had found it within himself to rule that a ball that hits the shortstop in the glove, is fumbled and enables the runner to beat out the throw to first is actually a hit and not an error. The streak, somehow, continued onto 31 games.
Dan Daniel was no rookie sportswriter; he was a 51-year-old sportswriter who had ridden many a train with the Yankees, and was a friend to Yankee management. When the Yankee organization was looking to discredit the potential of fantastic prospect Vic Power, who appeared on track to become the first black Yankee, they planted a story with Daniel to discredit Power. Daniel, who was “ever accommodating”, wrote an article declaring Power was only a major leaguer up to his Adam’s apple, and was “not too quick on the trigger mentally.” Power, who had hit .331 with 109 RBI in the minors in ’52 was soon traded out of the organization and deemed “not a Yankee type.”
If Daniel was ever so accommodating in helping the Yankees find a reason to drive their first potential black player out of town is it really a stretch to believe he would simply turn an error into a hit to help keep DiMaggio’s hitting streak alive? That he would do so two days in a row? That Daniel would do his part to keep the boy from Boston out of the spotlight and keep Joltin’ Joe squarely in it with this not-yet-record streak?"
There you go scrappy...it took me all of 2 minutes to find it. Now go back to your hole in the ground you sap.
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Reggie, was a .260 hitter and never hit above .300 in his career. Namath won a Super Bowl and thats about it. His stats are fair over the course of his career but he was a showman and he payed in NY.
While I do think there is a help for players that play in NY, there is NO disputing whether Joe D should be in the hall.
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<< <i>While I do not think Joe D is overrated by any stretch of the word, I do think there is a bias of NYers in the HOF. Reggie and Namath likely would not make it in todays standards.
Reggie, was a .260 hitter and never hit above .300 in his career. Namath won a Super Bowl and thats about it. His stats are fair over the course of his career but he was a showman and he payed in NY.
While I do think there is a help for players that play in NY, there is NO disputing whether Joe D should be in the hall. >>
Zef, Reggie hit 563 home runs. He is in today no problem. Also, Reggie played only 5 years out of 21 seasons in New York. He spent 16 years and 419 home runs outside of New York.
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Is Sammy Sosa a HOFer? Is Palmiero? They have 500+.
I am not trying to pull an Axtell here, but I do think a NY stint has help to get in the hall. Its the biggest market in America and therefore has the biggest following.
Namath won one big game. He threw more INT's than TD's over the course of his career. He's in because of the spotlight he held due to the market he played in.
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<< <i>Is Sammy Sosa a HOFer? Is Palmiero? They have 500+.
I am not trying to pull an Axtell here, but I do think a NY stint has help to get in the hall. Its the biggest market in America and therefore has the biggest following.
Namath won one big game. He threw more INT's than TD's over the course of his career. He's in because of the spotlight he held due to the market he played in. >>
Reggie hit is home runs in an era MUCH different than the Sammy Sosas and Palmieros did. I don't think that is a fair comparison.
While I agree about Joe namath, don't discount that "one" big game he won. That game changed the NFL forever in many ways.
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<< <i>Reggie hit is home runs in an era MUCH different than the Sammy Sosas and Palmieros did. I don't think that is a fair comparison.
While I agree about Joe namath, don't discount that "one" big game he won. That game changed the NFL forever in many ways. >>
I agree that was a different era, but Reggie couldn't hit the broadside of a barn at times. He hit .194 one season! At the time he hit his HR's that plays into it, but it isn't often that one dimensional guys get in. He wasn't good on D, couldn't hit for ave, and all he could do was hit a HR 1 in every 17 AB's. I do agree that Reggie deserves to be in, but if he batted today he would not be a shoo in.
As for Namath, that was a big game he won but the person who made that game happen deserves to be in the Hall, not the player who shined in that one game.
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<< <i>Enough asking if subpar Yankees belong in the hall. Guidry,Mussian, Mattingly, Rizzuto, Gossage, ........ Just because someone plays there doesn't make them hall worthy. NY just overrates everyone, Namath, Willis Reed, Patrick Ewing, Red Holzman, Reggie Jackson, Walt Frasier, Joe Torre, does it ever end. Talk about getting free passes. Joe DiMaggio was also overrated, Mickey Mantle, Don Mattingly and the biggest chump of them all Thurman Munson, all overrated. >>
Must be a Red Sox Fan.
No Jad the moron is you.
The WWW gives this as a definition:
troll v.,n. To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies"; which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling";, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite.
Take your own advice and please use the dictionary before you open your trap. troll.
Steve
When are people going to realize that this is the absolute easiest time to be a slugger?? Easy to dominate, and easy to rack up the numbers. THIN COMPETITION! Then to compare a guy like Reggie Jackson, who also spent his prime years in the best pitchers park in the league, and his prime years during a decade where offense wasn't as easy to come by, for many of reasons, of which talent is none of the reasons! Boy what would it be like for Reggie to bat in an environment like Palmeiro, off thin pitching? Or how about TOdd Helton? Goodness gracious I dont' even want to think about how many Hr Reggie would have.
And for pete's sake, one dimensional?? People need to reeducate themselves on what is important in baseball...they are right, offense is only one dimension, and that is HOW MANY RUNS YOU CREATE!! That is the stat that matters, doesn't really matter the way you get to it, could be by getting many hits, could be getting many extra base hits, could be the avoidance of making outs, could be by getting on base at a frequent pace.
Actually, the two primary ways to create runs is efficiency of getting on base, and efficiency of moving runners to home plate. Thats it.
Do we have to go through the strikeout worksheet again?? Yeah, it matters when a batter k's, but not even remotely close to the effect that typical fans think it does. It does nothing close to knocking Reggie out of the Hall. The actual negative value of a strikeout, compared to a non-strike out out is about .03 runs per every strikeout. SO in essence if Reggie struck out 1,000 more times than a competitor of his, his strikeouts cost him about 30 runs over the course of his career compared to that competitor. Does it make a differecne? Yeah, 30 runs is 30 runs.
Reggie Jackson is the epitomy of what a Hall of Famer is. Same for strikeout guys like Mike Schmidt. GO back to my threads from before and compare Schmidt vs. Bill Buckner. GO through the play by pla of EVERY SINGLE AT BAT IN THEIR CAREER, and you tell me how many times Bill BUckner's outs moved runners up. Bill BUckner never struck out. Yet you will be surprised on how little difference that makes between the best at avoiding whiffs, and the worst.
Anyone, GO AHEAD. People need to try and look at the evidence before they say stuff that is totally wrong. Unless Reggie Jackson saved every one of his strikeouts with a man on third and less than two outs, than his strikeouts cost exactly what I said above.
I am still amazed on what people truly believe, and how errant those beliefs are.
P.S. Baserunning is the final component to runs, though PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE CS!
<< <i>GO back to my threads from before and compare Schmidt vs. Bill Buckner. >>
No thanks. You likely will just tell anyone who doesn't agree with you that they are wrong.
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<< <i>Well Steve, the moron would be someone who thinks trollings means troll.
No Jad the moron is you.
The WWW gives this as a definition:
troll v.,n. To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies"; which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling";, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite.
Take your own advice and please use the dictionary before you open your trap. troll.
Steve >>
-- Yogi Berra
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Take your own advice and please use the dictionary before you open your trap. troll.
Steve >>
I wish you'd do the same.
I'm curious to hear what it is.
Besides, when sports fans make unfounded claims they usually are wrong.
What exactly are the benefits of just putting the ball into play?? Goes back to the beginnings of baseball, and little league. 1). Anything can happen, errors occur, and 2) Productive outs.
Both are way overblown in terms of the frequency of which they occur in MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL.
For example, Reggie Jackson has over 2,500 strikeouts, and Bill Buckner has about 400. Those are the extreme ends of the spectrum from that era. You would think that with all those time Buckner put the ball into play, (often just for the sake of putting it into play), you would think that he reached base via errors more often.
Well it would behoove you to know that Reggie reached base via error 131 times and Buckner only 128!!
OK, How about moving runners up. The easy one to see is sac flies...Reggie had 68 and Buckner 97. You can go through the play by play data and see how many other times Buckner moved a runner up, compared to Reggie, and you will see it doesn't amount to near the amount people think.
Then don't forget the negative of simply putting the ball into play...DOUBLE PLAYS!! The negative addition of more double plays virtually negates the positive addition of most of the times a runner is moved up.
Reggie 183 DP, Buckner 247.
In the end, there really is no need to go through the tiresome work of examining each players play by play, as it has been done already, and you will see that for every 100 strikeouts it costs the value of about 3 runs.
So in the most extreme case of Reggie Vs. Buckner, Buckner's ability to put the ball into play is equal in value to about 43 Reggie Home Runs for the career. Does it make a difference, yes, but not to the degree everyone thinks.
Relooking at Reggie's value a different way. If he had only struck out 400 times like Buckner, and reduced his home runs to 520, he would have the same value as he did with the 567 HR and 2,500 strikeouts he amassed. Would you be questioning his Hall of Fame ability with that type of low strikeout production? NO. But it has the same value of the way he went about it.
Thats all I'm saying. People just tend to believe things without really examining the evidence. It happens all the time.
how clever...............
Steve
<< <i>how clever...............
Steve >>
'Clever' is something you've always aspired to, but never grasped.
Steve
<< <i>Dan was right, you are the resident moron of this forum. Congrats.
Steve >>
Hmm if I am a 'moron' as you so eloquently put it, what does that make you for arguing with me?
Now get out of here, before I beat you down like I did softy yesterday.
SD
<< <i>lol..............I took your advice and with dictionary in hand I looked up the word moron. What did I find? I found that you and 'moron' are synomonous.
SD >>
haha you had a dictionary in hand and you couldn't spell 'synonymous' right?
Talk about moron!
<< <i> Now get out of here, before I beat you down like I did softy yesterday. >>
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talk about being a moron......................Talk:Fast food - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I wouldn't say that in NZ, franchise is synomonous with fast food. For sure it's...............
I guess the encyclopedia is wrong and only you are right? you twit.
one need not use a double Y.
Steve
In the head.
Yes, I can also rhyme.
Thank you.
you're welcome
Steve
<< <i>Are you back for another beatdown softie? I take it you climbed out from under your bed where you went hiding last night with your thumb in your mouth. >>
Ax, I slap you around like a rag doll every time. It has become rather routine. Not boring yet, still a wee bit off fun
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did you do the research I required of you on the 56 game hit streak yet? You know you're not allowed to post here until you do.
Now get to work sparky.
Now, get lost. You have nothing of value to add to this entire community. You are no collector. You are a loser sitting alone home every night taking out your anger on a message board.
Putz
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And I wasn't trying to give validity to the original poster's message (did you see me saying D shouldn't be in the hall?)
Try reading the thread's progression (slowly if you must! take copious notes!)
-jad posts rant about yankee players being overrated, no doubt spurred on by spammy's spamming up the board asking about a series of players should be in the hall
-cardcorecollector says '56 game hitting streak'
-I reply stating that there has been much discussion over the validity of some scoring of those hits that would have been called errors in many cases
-you reply with calling me a moron (wow, you add so much to this board...which you called a cesspool)
-I reply asking you to check the history of the scoring, and do a little research
-you reply calling me a nitwit (*yawn*)
-I ask you again to do some research on the streak
-you call me a bandwagoner stating I started liking the M's when Griffey came on (but fail to acknowledge looking into the hitting streak)
-more mindless banter by you
-then you say this has nothing to do with his steak (How is that possible? When questioning the streak is what got your panties in such a twist?)
-you then dissolve into delusions of grandeur about somehow slapping me about in discussions (as we've seen, you have the mental capacities of an infant).
So there you go. You still have no idea what the scoring of Joe D's streak is about, and I know it's because you fear one of 'your' yankee greats' most notable accomplishment might be tainted by homeschool scoring bias.
Now get the hell out of here, before I smack you across your mouth AGAIN.
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talk about being a moron......................Talk:Fast food - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I wouldn't say that in NZ, franchise is synomonous with fast food. For sure it's...............
I guess the encyclopedia is wrong and only you are right? you twit.
one need not use a double Y.
Steve >>
Wikipedia is hardly the authority on spelling...it's easy to edit by anyone.
Try typing YOUR spelling into yahoo.com or dictionary.com, and you get the same result both places:
<< <i> Did you mean: synonymous >>
Moron.
You said 'with dictionary in hand', so you obviously weren't referring to wikipedia, as it's online only. For kicks, I went to wikipedia just for you and searched for 'synomonous' (your spelling) and was met with this result:
"No page with that title exists."
You're so damned stupid it's not even funny anymore.
Now that I've bashed both you and softy in the brain, and shown you both to be the idiots you truly are, I am off to watch PTI.
Good night you twits!
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And I wasn't trying to give validity to the original poster's message (did you see me saying D shouldn't be in the hall?)
-jad posts rant about yankee players being overrated, no doubt spurred on by spammy's spamming up the board asking about a series of players should be in the hall
. >>
Did you see me arguing against ANYTHING about Joe D;s streak?
You tried to validate a bush league thread AND the notion that Joe D is over rated along with a mind numbing list presented by jad the little green booger. Instead of staying away from the trolls rant, you decided (no suprise) to stick like flies on $hit to the smallest little morsel you could to try and give this thread some substance.
Now, your anti NY spamming is getting as bad as anything spammy has done. If you continue to fill this forum up with your blind and compulsive anti NY drivel I suggest that you change your name to SPAMTELL and buy spammy a dozen roses.
GAME,SET, MATCH punk. You are owned yet again
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