Card Restoration

Stone193

I was looking for an article and found this ad in my file.

Altho Mendez's main biz is posters and other paper ephemera, I found it interesting that he has sports cards prominently pictured in his ad.

I can't help but think of all the accusations made about certain cards that have made their way thru different holders and somehow have "cleaned" up along the way?

Is this fact? Or fiction?

You can be the judge?
mike

WinPitcher

Mike you provocateur. lol



Steve

jad22

wow, they did a good job of removing the ink in example 5. anyone need to get writing off of a card?

rbdjr1

Levi 707, and some of his virtually worthless "tattered Mantle cards" and that restorer need to get together.

Maybe he then can get those Mantle's graded by PSA as "recolored" or "restored"!, They sure would look better!

rbd

jad22

so how do you go about learning how to do this

dizzyfoxx

It's things like this that have made me decide to never, ever spend money on a high grade pre-war tobacco, caramel, candy, etc. card whether it's slabbed or not. I use to be a collector in this genre but never again for me.

Steve1124

dizzyfox- i can't help but notice that is one beautiful Civil War commemmorative coin you have by your handle. Is it yours, or just a photo you found of this issue? i can tell that IT is not restored!

Susquehanna

From the FAQ page:

"Are baseball cards still authentic if they have been restored?

A number of high-end baseball cards have been restored to Mint or close to Mint condition. Many cards are restored to high grade by adding vintage paper and toxic chemicals to restore the worn corners, and sometimes by inpainting. As with reprints, there is nothing inherently wrong with restored cards so long as they are clearly represented as such. Restorations can often be identified by a visual inspection. Some inspections involve a black light test which can be less than effective if the colors are dark."

Nick

Steve1124

Personally, i think i'd just as soon have a "reprint" (if one exists), rather than going to the expense of having an original one restored, which would probably de-value it, and gain you nothing.

Stone193

<< <i>Personally, i think i'd just as soon have a "reprint" (if one exists), rather than going to the expense of having an original one restored, which would probably de-value it, and gain you nothing. >>


Steve
That's the interesting road that sports card hobby collectors went down...

You can restore a comic book or a poster and it doesn't adversely affect the value - in fact, it goes up with respect to a tattered movie poster.

I'm just not sure where this places cards.

A nicely "restored" T206 should have more value than one that is extremely poor but never as much as a near mint counterpart that is "untouched." That's how I would view it if we ever changed out view.

mike

dizzyfoxx

<< <i>dizzyfox- i can't help but notice that is one beautiful Civil War commemmorative coin you have by your handle. Is it yours, or just a photo you found of this issue? i can tell that IT is not restored! >>



It's mine, it's graded PCGS MS66 and it's as original as they come. Thanks for the kind words regarding it.

Steve1124

Simply AWESOME!!!!!!!!

WinPitcher

Levi 707, and some of his virtually worthless "tattered Mantle cards" and that restorer need to get together.



Sorry to hijack the thread Mike but............








I guess these are worthless too? 707 cards. be sure to click on other sets.



Steve

jmbkb4

Looks like his best '52 mantle is a PSA 7

jad22

PATHETIC, is Levi your dad or are you just in love with the man?

Goodsport40

Mike, did you ever read the Vintage and Classic Baseball Collector back when Dennis Purdy published it? I remember an interview he had with Mike Gidwitz who, at the time, owned the PSA 8 t206 Wagner. In the article he commented that, in his opinion, most of the higher grade cards must have been cleaned up in order to receive the grades they did. Did anyone else read this article? Please jump in and correct me if my account of this is wrong. I believe it was in issue 8 or 9 in 1998(?). For what its worth....


Robert

jmbkb4

<< <i>Looks like his best '52 mantle is a PSA 7 >>


anyone wanna guess what he'd want for the PSA 7 '52 Mantle???

pandrews

<< <i>PATHETIC, is Levi your dad or are you just in love with the man? >>



whats really pathetic, are the people who expect someone should GIVE away their cards.. or the people that complain because they cant afford to pay what someone wants FOR CARDS THEY OWN..

dude, get a life, if you dont like the prices 707 has, find the card somewhere else..

originalisbest

With regard to restored comics, it's a mixed bag - for a very rare GA book, a professionally restored example will fetch a higher price than an absolute rag or damaged, of the same - but with a relatively available book, unrestored and original is the preference.

Stone193

<< <i>Mike, did you ever read the Vintage and Classic Baseball Collector back when Dennis Purdy published it? I remember an interview he had with Mike Gidwitz who, at the time, owned the PSA 8 t206 Wagner. In the article he commented that, in his opinion, most of the higher grade cards must have been cleaned up in order to receive the grades they did. Did anyone else read this article? Please jump in and correct me if my account of this is wrong. I believe it was in issue 8 or 9 in 1998(?). For what its worth....


Robert >>


Robert
I remember an interview with Gid but don't remember the details.

In the mid to late 90s, it seems there was a lot of whispering about "cleaned" cards.

So let me ask this: is there anything wrong with cleaning a card or chemically/mechanically removing wax?

Most would definitely say that using bleach is out.

So is the operative word, cleaning that can't be smelled or detected with a black light e.g.?

Sorry to bring this up
But I find it interesting
I'm willing to bet, there's a mass of CJs that have been, as a minimum, washed.

mike