If this is an MS65 we need a 100 point scale!
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1. Start with a VG coin.
2. Clean and dip the holy hell out of it.
3. Put a big gash into the reverse for good measure.
Bonus points for printing a label and putting it into a Coin World holder.
Can someone please explain to her that she is high?
-- Adam Duritz, of Counting Crows
My Ebay Auctions
"This is MY determination based on the ANA Coin Grading System"
You obviously dont know how to read then. The coin is no more then a polished up, ugly VG. Sorry.
5.00 S&H too
"What a nice coin!"
LOL
<< <i>It is ABOVE AVERAGE, brilliantly toned and has very few contact marks on the surface or rim. >>
That looks more like a big scratch to me. Very sad grading skills too.
Specializing in 1854 and 1855 large FE patterns
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XXXhole."
"Yes, all of a sudden after they have been up for auction for a week, I got a bunch all at once. Believe me I really appreciate being given info. like this because I am NOT a coin dealer, nor did I ever claim to be. I have a copy of the ANA Coin Grading system and under choice uncirculated, it clearly states: An above average Uncirculated coin which may be brilliant or lightly toned and has very few contact marks on the surface or rim. To me, though cleaned, they look lightly toned. I did not intentionally try to mislead anyone and some of the emails I received were SO NASTY and unnecessary. I'm working on revising my description now to please all the nasty ebay critics who have nothing better to do then insult a seller who made an honest mistake."
Some may consider this coin MS-67!!!***
Not unless you are asking the blind guy on the street corner, buddy.
<< <i>ANOTHER RESPONSE FROM HER :
"... I did not intentionally try to mislead anyone and some of the emails I received were SO NASTY and unnecessary. I'm working on revising my description now to please all the nasty ebay critics who have nothing better to do then insult a seller who made an honest mistake." >>
I've often wondered if some of the worst grading and descriptions might actually be written my complete novices who've read just enough eBay listings to be dangerous. Appears to be the case here....
But it's really hard to feel sorry for her. If I were selling, for instance, an antique chest of drawers, I don't think I'd feel completely free to claim an age, or surface orginality, or manufacturer based simply on 3 minutes worth of "research" and creative writing. If someone said nasties to her, maybe she learned a lesson.
-- Adam Duritz, of Counting Crows
My Ebay Auctions
I've been in touch with the seller, who had been given the coins, knew virtually nothing about them and was hoping to raise some $ as a stay at home mom. Yes, she (UNKNOWINGLY) listed them at silly grades and included comments which were way off base.
However, at least HER "bad" behavior was unintentional. Frankly, it wasn't nearly as bad as some of what I have seen displayed in this thread. It would have taken about the same amount of time to try to inform, educate and help her as it did to ridicule her here, and/or through emails.
Next time you are tempted to make fun of someone and/or assume the worst about them, please consider using your superior knowledge about coins in a constructive, rather than destructive manner. Many of us were in her shoes, knowledge-wise at one time - that makes some of the comments here even less excusable. To my eyes, this is a sad thread.
I will now step down from my soapbox and resume my break from posting here.
mrsorganized70..
Herb
Edited to add: Sorry bad timing on my part,
Mark a lesson well taken, thank you sir.
David
Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
Sorry, I have to disagree....
".....I have a copy of the ANA Coin Grading system.... An above average Uncirculated coin....
I don't know where she was reading that from, I have the ANA Grading Standards book, as do many others here, but I don't see that under the "Lincolns" catagory.....where would that be?
Also, the ANA book has very nice pictures that would help all but the wackiest in determining a grade that is VERY close........certainly NOT MS65, which states "No trace of wear..."
There's no way you can make me believe this woman can't tell the difference between a cent with wear & one without.....just go to the local bank for a new roll of cents & compare.
"However, at least HER "bad" behavior was unintentional....", I don't buy that either.
Maybe she lacked numismatic knowledge, but when she drops catch phrases like 'LUSTER', 'RARE', 'BRILLIANT RED', etc.......that's NOT unintentional!
She may not have deserved all she got, but what ever she got, she brought it upon herself.
JMO
<< <i>the seller needs to get a pair of glasses and learn how to read and also take their meds >>
Hey leave her alone. We get all our "meds" from her site and are 100% satisfied and "highly" recommend buying!
1) She had an idea what to say to sell her coin.
2) She had no idea what those words actually meant.
She was obviously being unknowledgeable when she wrote the ad. She could perhaps be forgiven for that. But she wrote the ad in glowing terms that were patently, glaringly false. (As others have pointed out, the chances of her not knowing what a new Lincoln cent looks like are virtually zero.) If people e-mailed her with mocking or mean-spirited statements, I think that's unfortunate. But as for what goes on in this forum, criticizing (and yes, even mocking) people's Ebay listings is par for the course. Is it fair? Maybe not, in all cases. But I believe some of it is based on the fact that we were (and some of us still are) relatively new to the hobby, and we know how much damage can be done by someone passing off a worn piece of crap as MS-65.
Only the seller knows what her real intentions were. But it's hard for me to feel sympathy for someone selling a coin like that as MS-65, knowing that some poor sap could fall for it. At the very least, it was very irresponsible.
-- Adam Duritz, of Counting Crows
My Ebay Auctions
You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.
To err is human, to forgive is against forum policy
I have not emailed her, nor do I intend to, I'm just of the opinion that she does know what she is doing & doesn't care.
ADDED: Her return policy:
Return Policy Details: All Sales Should be Considered Final...HOWEVER...Under certain circumstances, I know things happen...after discussion with buyer, I will determine if a return will be accepted.
-- Adam Duritz, of Counting Crows
My Ebay Auctions