Grades! Some '84 Topps for you stingray

bsfastball

Not too happy with this sub, I was expecting 9's for the leaf cards and definitely some more 10's on the '84 topps (no way im sending in a '84 Dale Berra if I dont think it's a 10). I'm sure some of them would be 10's on a resubmit, but man, its a pain to submit them again. Most are headed for the 'bay, if you are interested.

1 40420083 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 470 RAY FOSSE N/A 8
2 40420084 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 487 TIGERS TEAM N/A 8
3 40420085 1980 TOPPS 87 WAYNE GRETZKY ALL-STAR 8
4 40420086 1976 TOPPS 200 KEN DRYDEN N/A 8
5 40420087 1985 LEAF 216 NOLAN RYAN N/A 9
6 40420088 1985 LEAF 99 ROGER CLEMENS N/A 7
6 40420089 1985 LEAF 99 ROGER CLEMENS N/A 8
7 40420090 1987 LEAF 67 ROBIN YOUNT N/A 9
7 40420091 1987 LEAF 67 ROBIN YOUNT N/A 9
8 40420092 1987 LEAF 98 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 8
9 40420093 1987 LEAF 46 MARK McGWIRE N/A 9
10 40420094 1987 DONRUSS 6 JOSE CANSECO DIAMOND KINGS 9
11 40420095 1987 LEAF 43 RAFAEL PALMEIRO N/A 8
12 40420096 1987 LEAF 129 PETE ROSE N/A 8
12 40420097 1987 LEAF 129 PETE ROSE N/A 8
13 40420098 1987 LEAF 36 GREG MADDUX N/A 8
13 40420099 1987 LEAF 36 GREG MADDUX N/A 8
14 40420100 1985 LEAF 7 DON MATTINGLY DIAMOND KINGS 8
15 40420101 1985 LEAF 14 CAL RIPKEN JR. DIAMOND KINGS 8
16 40420102 1985 LEAF 101 TOM SEAVER N/A 9
17 40420103 1985 LEAF 113 STEVE CARLTON N/A 8
18 40420104 1983 FLEER 179 WADE BOGGS N/A 9
19 40420105 1983 FLEER 360 TONY GWYNN N/A 9
20 40420106 1984 TOPPS 425 STEVE HOWE N/A 9
21 40420107 1984 TOPPS 422 JOSE CRUZ N/A 9
22 40420108 1984 TOPPS 604 JOHN LOWENSTEIN N/A 9
23 40420109 1984 TOPPS 596 RYNE SANDBERG N/A 9
24 40420110 1984 TOPPS 750 JIM PALMER N/A 9
25 40420111 1984 TOPPS 700 MIKE SCHMIDT N/A 9
26 40420112 1984 TOPPS 200 ANDRE DAWSON N/A 9
27 40420113 1984 TOPPS 48 JULIO FRANCO N/A 5
28 40420114 1984 TOPPS 550 JIM RICE N/A 9
29 40420115 1984 TOPPS 240 EDDIE MURRAY N/A 9
30 40420116 1984 TOPPS 385 TONY PEREZ N/A 9
31 40420117 1984 TOPPS 707 NL ACTIVE CAREER STRIKEOUT LEADERS 9
32 40420118 1984 TOPPS 77 BRETT BUTLER N/A 9
33 40420119 1984 TOPPS 508 MEL HALL N/A 9
34 40420120 1984 TOPPS 236 ELLIS VALENTINE N/A 9
35 40420121 1984 TOPPS 396 JESSE OROSCO N/A 9
36 40420122 1984 TOPPS 383 TERRY PUHL N/A 9
37 40420123 1984 TOPPS 503 ELIAS SOSA N/A 9
38 40420124 1984 TOPPS 393 GARY CARTER N/A 9
39 40420125 1984 TOPPS 400 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 8
40 40420126 1984 TOPPS 490 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 9
41 40420127 1988 TOPPS 386 DON MATTINGLY N/A 9
42 40420128 1984 TOPPS 391 DALE MURPHY N/A 9
43 40420129 1984 TOPPS 600 ROD CAREW N/A 9
44 40420130 1984 TOPPS 470 NOLAN RYAN N/A 9
45 40420131 1984 TOPPS 732 TERRY CROWLEY N/A 10
46 40420132 1984 TOPPS 18 DALE BERRA N/A 9
47 40420133 1984 TOPPS 455 TERRY KENNEDY N/A 9
48 40420134 1984 TOPPS 445 JERRY REMY N/A 9
49 40420135 1984 TOPPS 552 RAY BURRIS N/A 9
50 40420136 1984 TOPPS 402 DAVE WINFIELD N/A 9
51 40420137 1985 TOPPS TRADED 32T MARIANO DUNCAN N/A 10
52 40420138 1988 TOPPS 394 ROGER CLEMENS N/A 10
53 40420139 1988 TOPPS 386 DON MATTINGLY N/A 10
54 40420140 1988 TOPPS 600 MIKE SCHMIDT N/A 9
55 40420141 1988 TOPPS 70 ROGER CLEMENS N/A 9
56 40420142 2002 UD PROSPECT PREM. 95 SCOTT KAZMIR AUTOGRAPHED 9
56 40420143 2002 UD PROSPECT PREM. 95 SCOTT KAZMIR AUTOGRAPHED 10
56 40420144 2002 UD PROSPECT PREM. 95 SCOTT KAZMIR AUTOGRAPHED 10
56 40420145 2002 UD PROSPECT PREM. 95 SCOTT KAZMIR AUTOGRAPHED 10
56 40420146 2002 UD PROSPECT PREM. 95 SCOTT KAZMIR AUTOGRAPHED 10
56 40420147 2002 UD PROSPECT PREM. 95 SCOTT KAZMIR AUTOGRAPHED 10
57 40420148 2002 UD PROSPECT PREM. 92 PRINCE FIELDER AUTOGRAPHED 10
58 40420149 2003 BOWMAN CHROME 176 DELMON YOUNG DRAFT PICKS-AUTOGRAPH 9
58 40420150 2003 BOWMAN CHROME 176 DELMON YOUNG DRAFT PICKS-AUTOGRAPH 9
59 40420151 1984 TOPPS 395 STEVE CARLTON N/A 8

Boopotts

Friends don't let friends grade commons from the 1980's!

Seriously, if you do the math you'll come to the same conclusion I did-- that's it's a totally losing proposition. First, you buy the wax. Then, you take the time to bust it and sort the cards. Then you submit your stuff, and if you're REAL good, like Meathook or DGF or Eagle Eye Kd, you get 25-40% 10's. You sell the 10's for $20 each or so, basically eat the 9's and lower, and you're making MAYBE 3$ a slab. And that's if everything breaks right (the unopened material produces quality cards, PSA agrees that your cards are gem mint, etc.).

Stingray

Sorry to say that I given up on 84s and pursuing other interests. Set is way too big and I opted out.


Stingray

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larryallen73

Friends don't let friends grade commons from the 1980's!

Though I still send in some '80's commons for grading I totally agree it's not smart... especially not to make a profit. I send in a lot of semi-stars but generally not duplicates. That is, I send in one of each semi-star that looks like a 10 and if so I likely sell. If a 9 I keep it. End up with a nice collection of Jose Cruz's, Steve Sax's, etc.... Oh ya, plus I primarily send in semi-stars I LIKE. My last sub I sent in two commons but they looked like smoking 10's. Seeing all these "grade posts" has me eager to see how I did!

bsfastball

I've actually done very well grading some '88 Topps, 10's of clemens and mattingly etc. have been selling for $30-$40 a pop (and they are pretty easy 10's). When I sent those '84 commons in, I figured $3 per 9 and $15 per 10, so if i got at least one 10 for every four 9's, I'd come out ahead. Just didn't happen for me this time.

Boopotts

<< <i>I've actually done very well grading some '88 Topps, 10's of clemens and mattingly etc. have been selling for $30-$40 a pop (and they are pretty easy 10's). When I sent those '84 commons in, I figured $3 per 9 and $15 per 10, so if i got at least one 10 for every four 9's, I'd come out ahead. Just didn't happen for me this time. >>



At $3 per 9 and $15 per 10 you're looking at making $24 and spending $20 on grading, for a profit of $1 a card. Figure in your time, ebay fees, etc. and that's really burger flipping money.

I'm not criticizing your submission, just trying to point out why grading these cards is an excercise in futility.

bsfastball

Sure, I'm not saying that one 10 for every four 9's was my goal, I was just saying that was the breakeven point. If my experience had been more like what I've had with the '88's (more 10's than 9's), I would've done well.

larryallen73

Also, need to factor in postage fees to AND back from PSA. I find they can add 50 cents or a dollar per card if you only send in 20-30 cards! Makes it even harder to "breakeven." Sort of like all the people that go to Vegas and "break even" every weekend... but even with everybody breaking even they keep building bigger and more expensive hotels. Interesting....

ArnyVee

I'd be interested in the PSA 9 '85 Leaf Tom Seaver if it's for sale/trade.