Where do moderns begin?

fcloud

When do you think coins are modern? How old does a coin need to be a classic?

MikeInFL

After Barber's designs left our coinage.

Cladiator

Moderns start with the implementation of the steam press in 1837 I believe. Previous coinage was made with a screw press. Of course everyone will have their own idea of what they consider "modern".

ziggy29

IMO it depends on the series. I think of a coin as "modern" when it no longer uses the allegorical representation of Liberty and instead uses old, dead historical people.

Thus cents have been "modern" since 1909 (arguably since 1959), nickels since 1938, dimes since 1946, quarters since 1932 and halves since 1948.

relayer

Where classics leave off

itsnotjustme

Liek all coins, they begin at the mint. Point being everything was modern at one point.

robertpr

I consider coinage of and after 1965 to be modern, and the coinage of and prior to 1964 to be non-modern (but not necessarily classic). The dividing line is of course the removal of silver from the composition and the introduction of clad coinage in 1965.

mozin

I think my outlook on "modern" would be considered a bit off center by some of you.

1. Silver coinage after Barber series I consider modern.

2. Classic Commemoratives after 1939, I consider modern. This is the Booker Ts and Washington Carvers, both designs I do not like. Except for a small number of Booker Ts and a single Washington Carver, I have no US coins past 1939.

3. If someone were to push me about not calling the Classic Commemoratives after 1916 modern, I would simply say that I love the differnt designs and cannot help myself.

4. Once they started making the Busties with the steam press, they certainly became a lot more modern.

Koinlink

I always went by 1964, the year we completely abandon using precious metals.

PerryHall

<< <i>I consider coinage of and after 1965 to be modern, and the coinage of and prior to 1964 to be non-modern (but not necessarily classic). The dividing line is of course the removal of silver from the composition and the introduction of clad coinage in 1965. >>

PerryHall

<< <i>I always went by 1964, the year we completely abandon using precious metals. >>



They left some silver (40%) in the half until the end of 1969 but that was not really a circulating coin.

OKbustchaser

I consider modern to be a floating catagory. All coin series were modern in their day.

Bottom line...if you can go to the bank and buy a particular series by the roll for face value then it is a modern coin.

Koinlink

<< <i>1. Silver coinage after Barber series I consider modern. >>



Even Standing Liberty Quarters? From another angle for the sake of discussion, how about coinage after gold coins were no longer struck for circulation? That was a significant
time in the history of our mint.

Koinlink

<< <i>

<< <i>I always went by 1964, the year we completely abandon using precious metals. >>



They left some silver (40%) in the half until the end of 1969 but that was not really a circulating coin. >>



I don't count them.

291fifth

Cents: Before 1925
Nickels: Before 1925
Dimes: Before 1934
Quarters: Before 1931
Halves: Before 1934
Dollars: Before 1878
Gold coins: Before 1880

curly

To me......all clad coinage is "modern".

Gemineye

<< <i>To me......all clad coinage is "modern". >>



.................So be it..........................

MrBreeze

I agree with the 1965ers.

MORGANHUNTER2

Well if you go by the top 3 TPG's they say:

PCGS- 1965 to present.
ANACS- 1964 to present.
NGC- 1955 to present.


I would tend to agree with PCGS - after 64 silver was reduced to 40%, thus not making it very valuable, most coinage seemed to take on different metal compositions as opposed to those prior to 64.

I don't see why NGC would pick 55, but 65 would be considered Modern to me.


what constitutes a classic?

age? rarity of a denomination? length of circulation?

What constitutes a antique?


Breaking down into terms of age- has always been a strange subject. What is an antique to one maybe considered as classic to another.

I have always thought that if it's over a 100 yrs old- it's historical in any form.

fivecents

<< <i>Where do moderns begin? >>

December 31, 1963 @ 12:01. imo

carl

All US coins minted in AD are modern. All US coins minted with a BC after the date are pre modern.

gyocomgd

<< <i>IMO it depends on the series. I think of a coin as "modern" when it no longer uses the allegorical representation of Liberty and instead uses old, dead historical people.

Thus cents have been "modern" since 1909 (arguably since 1959), nickels since 1938, dimes since 1946, quarters since 1932 and halves since 1948. >>

Conder101

1836. Before that the dies are hand punched and the coins struck using muscle power. After that the dies are hubbed and the coins stamped out by steam power like buttons.

messydesk

<< <i>I don't see why NGC would pick 55, but 65 would be considered Modern to me. >>


Introduction of flat-pack proof sets?

Dukie101

Well if you go by the top 3 TPG's they say:
PCGS- 1965 to present.
ANACS- 1964 to present.
NGC- 1955 to present.

MORGANHUNTER2

I don't see why NGC would pick 55, but 65 would be considered Modern to me. >>


Introduction of flat-pack proof sets?

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John

To me- an easier way to send, but why consider it as a modern. they mailed the boxed sets out right?

I've seen many of the boxed sets on the flea claiming that they are original, but those little soft baggies ya see them in were not made back in 55,54,etc. the hard cello bags - now they were made back then.

DIMEMAN

I agree with the people who said coins that don't have Miss Liberty on them instead they have people and are in circ now. Classic and modern is more than just a date in time. I think of it in terms of design. All of the coins with people on them are just simply ugly. All of them. Especially the dollars. When they stopped using Miss Liberty they started making ugly junk coins and that's all there is to it. And yes, that includes the Roosevelt dime. I collect then because I need them for a complete dime set. But I don't spend stupid money on them and never will, because they will never be worth anything.

Baley

Where do moderns begin?

When do you think coins are modern? How old does a coin need to be a classic?

why do you want to know? in what context will you use the "definition"

do you have two boxes, modern and classic, and you don't know which box to put a certain coin in?


If I had to pick a date it would be 1965, for obvious reasons. Yes the 1964 JFK is a classic, and the '65 is a modern. get over it.

I could as easily make a case for 1892, 1837, 1982, 1947, etc etc.

depends on the context of why one needs to define the terms.

my date may be different, depending on whether you're going to help me find a tough old coin I need, give me investment advice, or try to tell me that ultra high condition is better than absolute rarity.

mnmcoin

Anything with Ceasar's image is Classic...anything after that is all just modern crap.

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Gemineye

Hail Ceasar.......Hail Ceasar.......Hail Ceasar.......Hail Ceasar.......