Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
problem as in bodybag type or problem as in minting error ? like doubling on the shield ?
Whatcha mean, RYK ? Cleaning ? ( I think not) I think it is plastic holding it at NOON o'clock, or ?
and might I commend you on the picture !. Good shot. I wish I could do that, like that ... .but I can't make gold out of a penny ... and since I'm editing, I might as well say the grade is ef40 and it's in an NGC holder. Is that the problem ? Okay, how about the placement of the mintmark ... is it suspect ? Isn't it usually directly over the V in FIVE ?.... I dunno. I'm lost.
<< <i>I don't collect gold but isn't there supposed to be a ribbon that says In God We Trust above the eagle? >>
Only after 1866; before then there was no motto on U.S. coinage (except for the two-cent piece which adopted it in 1864). The Dahlonega Mint closed in 1861 as a casualty of the Civil War, so if a Dahlonega coin had the motto I'd be very surprised!
<< <i>I don't collect gold but isn't there supposed to be a ribbon that says In God We Trust above the eagle? >>
Only after 1866; before then there was no motto on U.S. coinage (except for the two-cent piece which adopted it in 1864). The Dahlonega Mint closed in 1861 as a casualty of the Civil War, so if a Dahlonega coin had the motto I'd be very surprised! >>
That spot in the crook of the wing doesn't look PVC-ish to me. I'll defer to experts, but it looks more like dirt with a touch of that verdigris that happens on copper. I dunno. Looks pretty nice, all in all. That alone wouldn't put me off of this coin if everything else added up.
I dont think that is PVC...storage in old leather bags will occasinally leave that green on gold. I saw a very fresh deal with some O and D mint quarter eagles walk into my friends shop. Pretty cool. Every one of the coins had that in crevaces. I helped him take a toothpick and a q tip and just blot it once or twice and it came off just like dirt. PVC is tough to remove.
Thanks for the opinions and advice. I emailed a pic of the coin to a favorite experts, and he also did not think it was PVC. My bad. And to think that I might pass over an otherwise excellent coin.
The biggest problem (and most of your collection has the same one) is that it is made out of gold instead of an attractive looking metal such as silver.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
I cannot tell whether or not coin has been cleaned based on this Heritage photo. I will get a look at the coin first hand and report back.
The biggest problem (and most of your collection has the same one) is that it is made out of gold instead of an attractive looking metal such as silver.
<< <i>i do not see a problem that would stop me from wanting it for my collection. >>
Same here. Looks like a nice coin for a circulated pre- Civil War half eagle. I have some original NGC and PCGS slabed early gold with spots of green waxy substance similar to this coin. I don't know if it came from an old leather purse or not but it sure isn't PVC. Also, I can't find the evidence of tooling, abrasive cleaning, or jewelry use that others are refering to. Is this coin raw or slabed?
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Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
Whatcha mean, RYK ? Cleaning ? ( I think not) I think it is plastic holding it at NOON o'clock, or ?
and might I commend you on the picture !. Good shot. I wish I could do that, like that ... .but I can't make gold out of a penny ... and since I'm editing, I might as well say the grade is ef40 and it's in an NGC holder. Is that the problem ? Okay, how about the placement of the mintmark ... is it suspect ? Isn't it usually directly over the V in FIVE ?.... I dunno. I'm lost.
<< <i>I don't collect gold but isn't there supposed to be a ribbon that says In God We Trust above the eagle? >>
Only after 1866; before then there was no motto on U.S. coinage (except for the two-cent piece which adopted it in 1864). The Dahlonega Mint closed in 1861 as a casualty of the Civil War, so if a Dahlonega coin had the motto I'd be very surprised!
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<< <i>I don't collect gold but isn't there supposed to be a ribbon that says In God We Trust above the eagle? >>
Only after 1866; before then there was no motto on U.S. coinage (except for the two-cent piece which adopted it in 1864). The Dahlonega Mint closed in 1861 as a casualty of the Civil War, so if a Dahlonega coin had the motto I'd be very surprised! >>
Thanks ziggy29 I didn't know that.
<< <i>Other than the rim ding at 12, the green spot on the top edge of the rightmost wing, and the abrasive cleaning, it's perfect. >>
Other than the roads and the sanitation and the aqueducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?
The eagle's wings look just a little too detailed. I'm wondering if they may have been tooled.
it for my collection.
Just my two cents.
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and also mechnical fixing/cleaning on for sure one possible two places on the coin subtle to say the least
and with the photo this is a guesstimate
i wouyld need to see the coin in hand sight seen to be sure this is a must with this coin
I cannot tell whether or not coin has been cleaned based on this Heritage photo. I will get a look at the coin first hand and report back.
The biggest problem (and most of your collection has the same one) is that it is made out of gold instead of an attractive looking metal such as silver.
Hey! I DO have a couple silver coins.
J
siliconvalleycoins.com
<< <i>i do not see a problem that would stop me from wanting
it for my collection. >>
Same here. Looks like a nice coin for a circulated pre- Civil War half eagle. I have some original NGC and PCGS slabed early gold with spots of green waxy substance similar to this coin. I don't know if it came from an old leather purse or not but it sure isn't PVC. Also, I can't find the evidence of tooling, abrasive cleaning, or jewelry use that others are refering to. Is this coin raw or slabed?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
The coin is a very rare date and in a PCGS AU-50 holder.