morgan experts - fake or what?

slipgate

This end in a few hours, so if you think it is genuine, get your bids in. I'm going to pass...

1895 proof

SamByrd

i would guess it started life as an 95s, I have an idea someone is not goin to be happy with there new bargin.

CalGold

Altered date. Was an abrasively cleaned worn out 1885 worth melt. Now still the same.

CG

Ooops, you asked for responses from experts. Please disregard my post.

Heywood

The description SCREAMS altered coin!

messydesk

"...I am not an expert,I cannot promise you that its the real thing,but I dont see anything that would make me think it was not real." Idiot.

Altered 1895-O VAM 4 or 1885.

bhartman35

Judging from the small, blurry pictures the seller has made available, I see no up side to bidding on this one. It's a little disconverting to me that someone would spend close to $700 on a coin, essentially sight unseen.

Pretty damn frightening...

ziggy29

It's telling that a $700 bid has met the reserve!

<< <i>Altered 1895-O VAM 4 or 1885. >>

I hope it's an 1885. I'd hate to waste a '95-O on this. If it is an 1885...

<< <i>Altered date. Was an abrasively cleaned worn out 1885 worth melt. Now still the same. >>

It's not still the same. Now it's an abrasively cleaned worn out altered 1885 worth melt.

Though it wouldn't surprise me that someone, somewhere, would pay knowingly hundreds for a fake to fill the 1895-P hole in the album that would fool most people (even if not most savvy collectors). These are the people who have too much money and need to give it to me so i can buy some real coins.

nankraut

"Altered date. Was an abrasively cleaned worn out 1885 worth melt. Now still the same."

BINGO!

AACoinCo

AACoinCo

It is as bogus as they come and a real bad job at it!

bhartman35

Question:

What are the "tells" on this coin that it's altered? I mean, judging from the generally crappy picture and the fact that no one in their right mind would be selling it at that price, I can infer that it's not what it appears to be, but I can't get a good enough look at it to really tell...

coinman420

i`m a newbie but look at the date, the 9 just don`t look right

BigJohnD

If I'm not mistaken, this coin was the subject of a thread not soo long ago. Seller was contacted, but apparently threw it back on. Sad.

numonebuyer

There is no reason to buy an 1895 that is not certified. I feel no pitty for the buyer.

morgannut2

I have a lovely 1895-P business strike in P-1 but PCGS won't grade it without any mintmark and just a nick-a-date xx95 to id it!! Why anyone would ruin a 950 is beyond me, it's always worth a few hundred as a filler--it must have been an 1885.

Gemini

"All my items are sold as is with no returns" = you're screwed sucker...