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What does it take for a dealer to lose a client?

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
There has been a lot of discussion about what a dealer can do to gain clients, provide good service, etc. Is there anything that a dealer can do to lose a client (not intentionally), even someone who has had past dealings with that dealer? For example, there have been studies done in the legal world about what annoys clients the most when dealing with a lawyer. On the top of the list is lack of communication, and even basic things like returning phone calls. I can relate to that when I am trying to get a contractor/service provider to call me back when I need a repair done at my house. I can also relate to anxiously waiting for a doctor to finish his mint julep at the country club to call me with my medical test results. So what are the biggest pet peeves of clients that might make them refuse to continue to work with a dealer?
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On the top of the list is lack of communication, and even basic things like returning phone calls.

    Bingo!

    I would add that if a dealer repeatedly sold a relatively green customer low quality coins passed of as high quality (either intentionally or unknowingly), especially at high prices, that would be a reason to not work with that dealer once the collector realized what was going on.

    Obviously, any fraud, theft, bad checks, etc. would be grounds for a client bolting.

    I can also relate to anxiously waiting at the country club, finishing a mint julep, for a doctor to call me with my medical test results.

    Well, most of us do not drink mint juleps at the club like you apparently do ( image ). Give the poor sap doc a break!
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Low-ball offers when it comes time to sell them something.

    The perception that the dealer views them as a "live one" who will buy inferior material at inflated prices.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beyond selling junk, lying about their coins' faults, grading inaccurately, etc. --

    Yeah, not responding to phonecalls or emails would be right up there. Also, being generally cranky or rude or treating me like my business isn't worth much. I don't have a lot to spend at any given time, but if you add it up over years and years, it is probably worth having. The dealers I like the best seem to "get" that.

    mirabela
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942
    Not properly recording a bid sent in for an auction.

    Losing an auction consignment after it was received (have heard of one sad story in this regard).


    Not executing a bid properly as a representative of a bidder at an auction.


    Not giving a favored client first shot at some choice coins when you first get them in (John J. Ford lost
    Mrs. Norweb as a client over a situation like this back in the 1950s.)
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    oh my

    dont get me started
  • JDelageJDelage Posts: 724 ✭✭
    This list is interesting and they all are important. This being said and IMHO, the #1 reason why a dealer might loose a customer is: DOES NOT ADD VALUE.

    I am not saying that a dealer doesn't add value, but those that do not will loose their customers. Having no experiences with a dealer is just as bad as having bad experiences.
    "The greatest productive force is human selfishness."
    Robert A. Heinlein
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a really good point too. There has to be a reason why you pay somebody 10 or 20% of the price of a coin. They sort of need to be offering you coins you can't find on your own and buy at the prices they did.
    mirabela
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    The lack of new and/or choice inventory will lose me as a client. I go to where I can find the best coins with good service. Good service is pointless without good coins, good coins are worthless without good service.
  • Lying to me would get it done!!!
    Gary
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  • CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
    1. Pawing the client's wife or daughter

    2. Being arrested for fencing stolen goods

    3. Being arrested for treason, espionage, or terrorism.

    CG
  • BurksBurks Posts: 1,103
    Not paying attention to a customer with product and payment in hand. There were two other people in the store looking at magazines, me standing at the counter. I told the dealer I was ready to pay and he said one minute. Went, sat down, and started reading CoinWorld with his feet on the desk.

    Sat my stuff down, walked out.........never to return.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    This may sound kinda simple, but a regular client should feel

    that the dealer is sort of looking out for their best interest

    in the collecting field. A good dealer can do that and still make

    a fair living.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,262 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Burks
    I don't think he likes you.
    I would have left as well.image

    Back to the question.
    I try to spend money with a dealer that gives me first shot at something really cool that just came in.
    When they stop giving me that chance, I tend to spend my money where they do.

    That said, I never burn a bridge.
    You just never know when you might need to cross it again. image
    Larry

  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    A dealer trying to low-ball and rip a coin. I've had that happen several times and will never buy or sell to those guys again.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The "Third Strike".

    One thing that does it on the first strike is pulling out the Blue Sheet on a Sight Seen transaction. Thats a automatic "Poof You Are Gone".

    Ken
  • Had to fire a client numerous times, but he always comes back anyways. lol
    This fellow buys bullion gold from time to time, and like many folks from his country, the bickering over price is part of the deal. He will argue price for half an hour, starting out at $35 or $40 under spot. By the time its done, he's happy, I'm worn out, and life goes on. Once in a while, I have to holler "OUT"! On several occasions, I've made it stick for a few weeks, but I can't stay mad at him. He's a real corker.

    And it ain't my shop. That does carry a little weight. hehe
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
  • OffMetalOffMetal Posts: 1,684
    #1 reason I don't buy from some people is because they are "judging a book by it's cover"

    Me being a first-time customer, the simple words in reply to me asking how much something was: "I'll take it out if you buy it." or anything of that sort. I'll reply "In that case, no thank you" and walk off.

    I don't buy from one dealer I see every month is because he tells me that a $20 coin is expensive.

    Me: "How much is XXXXXXX?"
    Him: "Well, it's expensive."
    Me: "How much?"
    Him: "$20"
    -Ben T. * Collector of Errors! * Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • 1. I will no longer deal with a dealer who hypes his coins and sells them for a significant premium. Then, when you try to sell them back to him he makes all kinds of excuses about why he cannot buy them back. This is a true "wanna be" dealer, who never gets my business again.
    2. Dealers who are too busy to return your phone calls.
    No good deed goes unpunished
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    dealer is rude and will not send good coins jusrt dreck to a COSTOMER WHO p[ays the going price and there is just not an interest or carring in getting first shot at coibns the collector wants to buy time to get another deaqler

    also dealer does not want to make a two way markwet in the stuff he sells

  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This may sound kinda simple, but a regular client should feel

    that the dealer is sort of looking out for their best interest

    in the collecting field. A good dealer can do that and still make

    a fair living. >>



    Here's a jelly donut for your sage advice. image

    Take care...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << This may sound kinda simple, but a regular client should feel

    that the dealer is sort of looking out for their best interest

    in the collecting field. A good dealer can do that and still make

    a fair living. >>


    yep; its a lot like having a goose that lays gold eggs. first law of business is that you NEVER screw a good customer. I know a gun dealer or two who would do well to heed that adage.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    At a show:
    Dealer rude, inattentive to customer.

    Via mail list:
    Grading "optimistic"
    Undisclosed problems.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dealer never pays a premium for varieties, toning, etc. but always wants a big premium for such things if he offers them for sale.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dealer never pays a premium for varieties, toning, etc. but always wants a big premium for such things if he offers them for sale. >>



    Amen to that; I just tell em I was born at nite but it warn't last nite. Most of them seem to automatically size one up as a sucker or a moron.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • carlcarl Posts: 2,054
    Rude or ignorance appears a lot here and I agree. How difficult is it for a dealer to at least ACT nice.
    Not remembering a repeat customer is rather irritating.
    No flexibility in prices turns me away for ever. My experience with Harlan J.Berk is such.
    Wipping out the grey sheet for each coin I ask about tells me the dealer is looking to raise the price as high as possible.
    A web site with very few coins available.
    A dealer that speaks to one customer in a language you don't understand and then both smile at you.
    A dealer that tries to tell you things you know are not true.
    Dealers with bad breath or body odor.
    Two dealers talking and you can't get service because they are to busy.
    If you tell a dealer at a coin show there is another dealer with the same coin as this one for a lot less and they tell you to go buy it then.
    etc. etc. etc. etc.
    Carl
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How bout dealers who spread lies, stories, untruths about TPG's such as smoe auction houses get ms grades for au coins.
    theknowitalltroll;

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