This STUPID World Baseball disaster

softparade · February 28, 2006 8:44AM

So what does everybody think about TIE games being allowed? To me, its the latest signal of the huge FARCE that this is. Not to mention the drop outs that are still happening. Maybe my mind will change when the games begin but this is looking dumb dumb dumb

THERE ARE NO TIES IN BASEBALL !!! AFTER 14 INNINGS OR 2,000 INNINGS, THERE ARE NO TIES

I can hear Tom Hanks screaming now. ........

There's no Tieing in baseball

softparade · February 28, 2006 8:53AM

Here are some of the recent WBC headlines

• First two rounds will end at 14 innings, even if tied
• Unwilling to play center, Mora pulls out of WBC
• Aramis Ramirez pulls out of WBC
• Red Sox owner: Manny not playing in WBC
• Roberto Kelly quits as manager for Panama

DirtyDog48 · February 28, 2006 11:35AM

Isn't the WBC being sponsored by Topps so they can issue a few different "Special Edition Sets" at $90.00 per sealed factory hobby box?

DaBeef · February 28, 2006 1:27PM

Baseball is on its last leg. I was a huge fan until the mid 90's. The Yankees pushing people around took the fun out of it for me, at least. Now I tune in just to see them lose in the playoffs. That and, my favorite baseball player took a turn for the worse.

Axtell · February 28, 2006 5:16PM

Baseball has a huge opportunity to get a salary cap in place and take back some of the steam that the NFL is about to lose - with the NFL's problems with it's upcoming CBA, with the emergence of the nfl games as a commodity and available every night during the year, the nfl is going to lose some fans.

Wabittwax · February 28, 2006 11:22PM

Baseball has become way too commercialized. It's sickening. The average ballpark must have a couple hundred advertisement signs everywhere. And for what? Lower ticket prices? Try again. Then they sell the name of stadiums for $90 million (although that happens in all sports). I still have admiration for ballparks names that aren't being pimped out to the highest bidder. What happen to the days of a few sponsors on the outfield wall.

As for football, I have an unusual idea that I like. I would like to see all the teams have 16 games and 10 bye-weeks. Football season would last 6 months plus the playoffs which is about the same as baseball. It would allow your favorite players more time to recouperate from minor injuries. The only problem there is that people would be breaking established records since they would be playing more games over a career. But, I'm ok with that. Football for 7+ months would be great.

softparade · March 1, 2006 5:13AM

<< Baseball is on its last leg. >>

No its not. Not even close. Sure the powers that be TRY to ruin the game but baseball as far as a fan base goes is MORE healthy than it was 50 years ago. Go back and look at attendance numbers from the 1950's. You will be shocked. Baseball has MANY MANY legs left.

manofsteele · March 1, 2006 6:58AM

<< Baseball has become way too commercialized.
The average ballpark must have a couple hundred advertisement signs everywhere. >>

yeah, that kind of MODERN commercialism is completely unheard of!

bri2327 · March 1, 2006 8:36AM

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<< Baseball is on its last leg. >>

No its not. Not even close. Sure the powers that be TRY to ruin the game but baseball as far as a fan base goes is MORE healthy than it was 50 years ago. Go back and look at attendance numbers from the 1950's. You will be shocked. Baseball has MANY MANY legs left. >>

EXACTLY.........attendance is much higher than it has ever been......and manofsteele is also dead on. Look at any ballpark from the 50's and 60's and chances are there are far more advertisements then as there are today.

Wabittwax · March 1, 2006 9:40AM

<< 

<< Baseball has become way too commercialized.
The average ballpark must have a couple hundred advertisement signs everywhere. >>

yeah, that kind of MODERN commercialism is completely unheard of! >>

Here's a good example: I used to live in Phoenix and I would attend D-backs sometimes. When they called in a relief pitcher a big sign came up that said "Nextel call to the bullpen" followed by the announcer saying it. What does a long distance company have to do with a relief pitcher except to completely pimp out a childhood game. I now live near Cleveland and I haven't been to an Indians game yet but, if it's the same way, I won't go. I'm a big fan of capatalism but I've had enough. Dropping $150 to attend a ball game only to have this crap thrown in your face so that Arod can have a private jet is just too much for me.

softparade · March 1, 2006 9:45AM

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<< Baseball has become way too commercialized.
The average ballpark must have a couple hundred advertisement signs everywhere. >>

yeah, that kind of MODERN commercialism is completely unheard of! >>

Here's a good example: I used to live in Phoenix and I would attend D-backs sometimes. When they called in a relief pitcher a big sign came up that said "Nextel call to the bullpen" followed by the announcer saying it. What does a long distance company have to do with a relief pitcher except to completely pimp out a childhood game. I now live near Cleveland and I haven't been to an Indians game yet but, if it's the same way, I won't go. I'm a big fan of capatalism but I've had enough. Dropping $150 to attend a ball game only to have this crap thrown in your face so that Arod can have a private jet is just too much for me. >>

Ummmm OK. So you tell me where ANY events are held without commercial glut. Don't pin this on baseball man. Its EVERYWHERE. And you can drop the same 150 bucks on basketball, hockey, football, bla bla bla bla bla.

Wabittwax · March 1, 2006 9:47AM

One point though, if I had Bill Gates money, I would probably think differently. I'm a regular guy with a wife, 2 kids, and one on the way in a couple weeks so my perception is a lot different than rich people. I hope I would still think the same if I won the lottery but honestly I probably wouldn't care anymore, which is sad.

Wabittwax · March 1, 2006 9:51AM

I've been to Hockey, Football, and Basketball and there aren't near the advertisements in those venues as I seen in Bank One Ballpark. Maybe it's a single instance to that team but that's all I have to go by.

bri2327 · March 1, 2006 2:07PM

When you can no longer read Indians or Diamondbacks or Pirates, or whoever on the players jerseys becuase the name and team logo have been taken over by sponsers as it has been done in soccer throughout the world thats when I will start to get ruffled. long distance phone carriers arent the first non child related item to get pimped out at the ballpark.....( see alcohol & tobacco ) these things have been going on forever.

Minor league baseball is getting as big as it ever was as well. Their big selling point is fan relations, whether its having mascots, bringing the kids out on the field between innings, givaways, etc. They are what is wholesome and good about the game....BUT, every time you see the kiddies out on the field between the 2nd & 3rd inning running the bases for a prize, isnt that prize or contest sponsored by someone too ? Maybe it is Mighty Casey's Lumber yard, or Chico's Bail Bonds, but they are still hawking something. The only difference is there is no jumbotron, lasers, etc to do flair it up like in the bigs.

Baseball is no more commercialized than anything else. Football may be even worse. When was the last time anyone saw more than 4 or 5 plays without having to see some guys mother hawking chunky soup ? It is all what it is, I cant afford too many games either in person, so I watch it at home and deal, but whatever the problem, it certainly isnt just baseball.

ctsoxfan · March 1, 2006 2:55PM

Good pic, manofsteele - I actually never realized that there was rampant advertising even back then.

Everything today is sponsored by something or someone - you would think by going to the ballpark and not watching on TV you would be spared somewhat. Not the case.

You want commercialism personified? Listen (I know it will drive you nuts, but try it just for a minute) to a Yankees game on their NY station WCBS. Everything, and I do mean everything, that is mentioned - is the "official _____ of the New York Yankees". They even mention this type of thing inbetween pitches, let alone inbetween innings. It's like listening to a 3 hour advertising marathon.

softparade · March 1, 2006 6:21PM

CT, I hear ya. Can't blame the Yanks for that one either though. Plain truth is that buisness WANTS to be associated with the New York Yankees. They are more than willing to pay the Yankees for the right to have their product tied with them. Any company that offers a product to the consumer tries to make itself linked to a hugely successful entertainment entity that may make people think of said product as they flock to the entertainment. This is the way advertising works and has ZILCH to do with the Yankees or its radio affiliate. A chain reaction part of buisness. WCBS pays a huge sum for the right to prodcast Yankee games that will get very good ratings and reach many many consumer. In turn has companies lining up with advertising dollars. All really very simple !

AND ANNOYING

WinPitcher · March 4, 2006 8:25AM

I guess it is sorta like a ballantine blast...................

Steve

This STUPID World Baseball disaster

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