NGC Ultra Cam / PCGS Deep Cam

JJM

are they the same animal?

Cladiator

In theory, yes. In practice, well.........

Freak1c

I have seen some beauties in both slabs.

Freak

JJM

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In theory, yes. In practice, well.........

Russ

In theory, yes. In practice, it depends.

For proof coins from the late 1970's on, it's six of one half dozen of the other. For proof coins from 1950 through 1970, the DCAM designation is more difficult to get at PCGS then the UCAM designation is to get at NGC. Market prices also reflect that reality with PCGS coins bringing substantially more money; in many cases, multiples more.

Russ, NCNE

Cladiator

I've recently seen about a half dozen bicentennial proof coins in NGC UCAM plastic that are CAM at best. That's not to say the same inaccuracies don't also exist in PCGS plastic though.

michael

for pre 1915 proof silver copper nickel coinaGE the ngc ultra cameo is more often times than not stricter

some pcgs coins deep cameo pre 1915 are right on the money some are not