1942/1-d Rip, Ripped, or fair price?(heard from NCS)

mcmxi · February 25, 2006 10:26AM

I paid $750 for this today, and just wondered how I did. The gunk on it appears to be dirt, which turned green in acetone. I was also wondering what it might grade and if I should send it to NCS.

TonedCoinTrader · February 25, 2006 10:27AM

You sure that green isn't PVC?

RBinTex · February 25, 2006 10:27AM

NCS it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks great except for the gunk.

fcloud · February 25, 2006 10:28AM

I think you did okay, but I don't like the green stuff. It may keep the coin from grading out.

mcmxi · February 25, 2006 10:31AM

The gunk was black when I put it in acetone. I know very little about PVC, so I won't say it is or isn't. I took it out to photo it, and now it is going back in.

fcloud · February 25, 2006 10:31AM

You probably were better off if you didn't clean it.

mcmxi · February 25, 2006 10:33AM

Without gunk what would you grade it? MS or AU

DeputyPud · February 25, 2006 10:34AM

IMO, you did just fine regardless of the gunk, because the overdate is still what it is. I don't often agree with sending anything away to be messed with, but this is one case where I would consider the same thing.

yellowjacket · February 25, 2006 10:40AM

I agree with deputypud. How can you go wrong with an overdate with that much detail. Look at those bands! If there is a way to "conserve" that green stuff off of the coin, you're looking at a $1300-$2000 coin.

mcmxi · February 25, 2006 2:56PM

The gunk seems to be coming off slowly in acetone.

BigE · February 25, 2006 3:02PM

Acetone is a good idea, looks like the gunk is in a good spot, just be patient with it, good luck

----BigE

BuffaloIronTail · February 25, 2006 4:01PM

Let it "cook" for awhile.

NCS is where you should go if ya can't remove the stuff.

That is a rare and collecable specimen, and well worth the money.

Pete

PerryHall · February 25, 2006 4:14PM

Why send it to NCS? Acetone should remove any PVC residue without damage to the coin.

Deadhorse · February 25, 2006 4:28PM

I'm willing to bet that's PVC.

Leave it in the acetone as long as needed with the occasional swirl around. Seal it in a jar with the acetone.

If you're lucky you may still get an MS grade out of it.

I'd say you got a deal.

I'd have jumped at it at that price, even with the gunk.

Steve27 · February 25, 2006 5:53PM

I agree, it looks like PVC, leave it in the acetone.

carl · February 25, 2006 8:58PM

I've seen a lot worse looking than that at coin shows for a lot more money than you paid for that one.

coinlover726 · February 26, 2006 1:58AM

I can offer you a profit on the coin. If I were you to send the coin to NCS for conservation. The coin probably wont make it into an NGC holder but an NCS holders do very well in a Heritage or Teletrade sale.

MrSpud · February 26, 2006 3:59AM

Make sure to pour off the acetone a couple of times and replace it with fresh clean acetone to keep the dissolved gunk from redepositing as a residue on the rest of the coin.

mcmxi · February 26, 2006 5:18AM

Thanks for the advice. How long should I give it before I give up and send it in?

Coin Finder · February 26, 2006 5:23AM

Can you take a close up pic of the "gunk"

Tbig

mcmxi · February 26, 2006 5:23AM

I'll try to get a close up with my microscope.

TwoSides2aCoin · February 26, 2006 5:26AM

if you don't want it, it would fit in my 7070..... (nobody says it can't be an error in that slot, eh ?)

....but I want a discount ! Now it's got two errors. One from the mint, another from the owner

why dip it ? leave it with it's gunk and crud and crap on it.... pass it around the mechanic's shop for a few days and let it be what it is without the doctoring....sheesh you guys !

mcmxi · February 26, 2006 5:30AM

Yesterday

Coin Finder · February 26, 2006 5:40AM

I could be wrong so please correct me if I am, but it appears to me to be corrosion. If removed it would damage the coin further leaving pitts etc. I do not think NSC would work on this coin.

Other than that nice coin!

Tbig

mcmxi · February 26, 2006 5:42AM

I can't say that you are wrong, but I can hope. I did notice the difference from yesterday at the top right of the Y and it looks promising.

mcmxi · February 27, 2006 5:48AM

I sent it yo NCS today. It was getting too hard to resist trying my own methods. Out of sight out of mind. Thanks to everyone here for the advice.

BigE · February 27, 2006 5:56AM

This coin found a good home, it's getting it's life saved, I would like to see a pic when it comes back.

-------------BigE

TwoSides2aCoin · February 27, 2006 6:40AM

<< <i>I sent it yo NCS today. It was getting too hard to resist trying my own methods. Out of sight out of mind. Thanks to everyone here for the advice. >>

Well that's much safer.... it's an awesome coin, isn't it ? I got my first one when I was thirteen in change while collecting for the Omaha World Herald (around 1968) ... it's long been gone

.. but man oh man, what a coin, huh ?

I still like the 'passing it around the mechanics shop' idea ...natural circulating condition (black gunk all in the devices, legends , hair.... you know that look !

mcmxi · March 9, 2006 7:36AM

I just got off the phone with NCS they gave it an "improperly cleaned unc details" I didn't see any cleaning, but that dosen't mean it isn't there.
I also sent an 1894 Morgan(thought it was XFish) came back as a circulated proof. Not a good day for me.

DeputyPud · March 9, 2006 7:46AM

Not a good day? Why would that be?

mcmxi · March 9, 2006 7:51AM

The value of an 1894 proof is about half of an MS

DeputyPud · March 9, 2006 8:01AM

Well, I don't know what you paid for the dollar, so if you paid good XF money for it, then I guess the day wasn't the best on that piece. But knowing what you paid for the overdate, I still say you did just fine, cause it is what it is.

carl · March 9, 2006 9:10AM

I have to agree with most of the others that regardless of any grading service you did just great. I hit coin shows 2 times a Month and you did great price wise. Your only mistake was sending to anyone. You could have just kept it in your collection and been really super happy.

TwoSides2aCoin · March 9, 2006 9:21AM

There's still the mechanic's shop idea

...

what will they call it after it's all dirty ? IMPROPERLY HANDLED ?

lloydmincy · March 9, 2006 10:55AM

That green guck doesn't bother me at all. Looks natural. That is a nice coin, with nice Full Bands. I would have paid double probably, but that's me! Good job.

Coinhusker1 · March 9, 2006 11:11AM

Despite NCS calling it "improperly cleaned", if they got the green stuff off, and it does not look like it was cleaned, give PCGS a shot.

BuffaloIronTail · March 9, 2006 11:51AM

Don't sell yourself short.....

You have taken a rare and collectable coin...and made
the decision to conserve it.

I would do that...any time...any day.

It will survive us and be enjoyed by future collectors.

Nothing, in my opinion, is more noble.

Pete

BrokenArrow · March 9, 2006 12:48PM

That is not gunk on that coin, that is Alien Vomit. Or It could be Martian Poop. Nice Coin though well worth the money. Great Buy.

1942/1-d Rip, Ripped, or fair price?(heard from NCS)

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