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HAMBURG - 2 Mark 1902

UdoUdo Posts: 984 ✭✭
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Recently I purchased this coin from Preussen, it is a Hamburg 2 Mark 1902, and I just wanted to show it. image

Much information about Hamburg can be found in the web (for example here) so I wanted to restrict this
post to what is shown on the coin's obverse, the city arms of Hamburg.

The origin of the city arms goes back to old seals of the 12th and 13th century. The tower in the middle
was interpreted as depiction of the old medieval cathedral. The stars above both the side towers are
classified as stars of St.Mary, so called after the patron of the city.

The gate in the middle varied during the centuries, sometimes opened, shown with or without portcullis,
sometimes shut.

The colors of the arms were red for the castle and silver for the ground until they were inverted due to a
resolution of the senate in 1752.

The helmet with the the feathers already appeared in the 16th century and are derived from the counts
of Holstein. The lions as supporters appeared in the 17th century.





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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    Beautiful coin, love the colors.........great eye appeal.

    If I owned the coin I'd be showing it off too..image

    Thanx for sharing,


    BTW.............the pic ain't too shabby either.




    Herb
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  • UdoUdo Posts: 984 ✭✭
    Dang, perhabs I should have written "share" instead of "show." image

    Thanks Herb image
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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    Udo, what kind of camera are you using ??







    Herb
    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
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  • UdoUdo Posts: 984 ✭✭
    Herb: I use a Nikon Coolpix 8700
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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    Udo,


    I too use the 8700, but dang it my pics never look that good.



    Herb
    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
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  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭
    Another nice toner!!
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭
    image Hmmm... AT?


























    image Great Pic image. (Better than mine image) - Preussen
    "Illegitimis non carborundum" -General Joseph Stilwell. See my auctions
  • IlikeZARcoinsIlikeZARcoins Posts: 901
    Udo - does the 'J' represent the mint mark ? If so where was it minted ?
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am beginning to feel like Charlie Brown at Halloween... all I see is a red X... at least the red X is not as heavy as the rocks...





    image just trying to add alittle humor... Udo always has terrific coins that are worth a look...and I am not getting there...

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  • ROBERTBROBERTB Posts: 1,016
    WOW!! That's spectacular!
    Everything I write is my opinion.

    Looking for alot of crap.
  • IlikeZARcoinsIlikeZARcoins Posts: 901
    About the mintmark.

    I note the mintmark J and the coin date 1902.

    My book says the following about German mintmarks:

    1 ) Hamburg, Germany ( 1873 )

    2 ) Paris, Westphalia ( 1808-09 )

    Obviously 1902 isn't anywhere near these dates - how can that be ?

    I'm asking the same question about Macs Franc on another thread.

    A bit baffled ?!?! image
  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭
    Udo, great coin and a good history lesson as well.
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  • UdoUdo Posts: 984 ✭✭
    Marcel,
    the J is the mint mark and it represents the Hamburg mint. The Hamburg mint is the oldest in Germany, coins were minted there since the 9th century.

    Actually the J is an I

    Here's a list of the German mints from the second Empire on, the bold marked mints are still minting coins in these days. image


    A - Berlin,
    B - Hannover (1872 - 1878),
    B - Wien (1938 - 1944),
    C - Frankfurt am Main (1872 - 1879),
    D - München,
    E - Dresden (1872 - 1887),
    E - Muldenhütten (1887 - 1953),
    F - Stuttgart,
    G - Karlsruhe,
    H - Darmstadt (1872 - 1882),
    J - Hamburg,
    T - Tabora (German East-Africa, 1916)
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  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Actually the J is an I >>


    Udo: What the He11 does that mean? image - Preussen
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  • 3Mark3Mark Posts: 593 ✭✭✭
    Udo:

    Great coin and pic as usual. Good brief history lesson (the best kind)image What happened to the slab that it was in?3Mark
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  • UdoUdo Posts: 984 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Actually the J is an I >>


    Udo: What the He11 does that mean? image - Preussen >>



    Hamburg should have the letter I in alphabetical order, but they always used the J because in the old script the I was written like the J. They never intended to use the I then to avoid confusions.

    During the Empire another mint in Strasbourg was under discussion but never realized, it had received the letter K then.

    Dang, that is confusing!
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  • UdoUdo Posts: 984 ✭✭


    << <i>Udo:

    Great coin and pic as usual. Good brief history lesson (the best kind)image What happened to the slab that it was in?3Mark >>



    Oh, the slab was destroyed unintentionally due to the use of the "Cosmic-method." image
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  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382 ✭
    Beautiful coin Udo I really like the toning this one hasimage
    Omnicoin
  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Actually the J is an I >>




    << <i>Udo: What the He11 does that mean? image - Preussen >>





    << <i>Hamburg should have the letter I in alphabetical order, but they always used the J because in the old script the I was written like the J. They never intended to use the I then to avoid confusions.

    During the Empire another mint in Strasbourg was under discussion but never realized, it had received the letter K then.

    Dang, that is confusing! >>



    Udo: What the He11 does that mean? image - Preussen
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Most certainly a spectacularly beautiful coin. Thanks for sharing, mein Herr!

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  • UdoUdo Posts: 984 ✭✭


    << <i>Udo: What the He11 does that mean? image - Preussen >>



    Yeah and what the heck does He11 mean, some kind of cryptography? image
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  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Udo: What the He11 does that mean? image - Preussen >>



    Yeah and what the heck does He11 mean, some kind of cryptography? image >>


    Hopefully, a way to beat the forum censors image - Preussen
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Great Pumpkin came with all the color that was anticipated... nicee coin and you took an excellent picture too...

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  • rhound1977rhound1977 Posts: 2,504


    << <i>Herb: I use a Nikon Coolpix 8700 >>



    Udo, nice thanks for sharing, I have the same camera but I think your shots are better than mine image
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