Do "rare colors" on a toned coin make you suspicious?

lsica

When you see a toned coin described with "rare colors", do you become suspicous, wondering *how* those rare colors occured, and *why* they happen to appear on a particular coin when they're so unusual for other coins in the series?

curly

Lately, I've become suspicious on just about all toning. Personally, I prefer target toning around the rim with luster shining through.

RYK

I'm with Curly. I wonder if Larry and Moe are also on board...

kalch23

I don't collect silver coinage. If I did, I would prefers blast white, especially after reading that 14k NGC 66* thread.

lsica

<< <i>I don't collect silver coinage. If I did, I would prefers blast white >>

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Course then, you'd have to wonder if it was a dip-job... Especially from stuff that typically comes out of the "open" mint sets.

RKKay

You mean like this?

Trinketts

<< <i>You mean like this? >>



There should be a law against ruining a coin like that... :

ccrdragon

there is - it's the law of public opinion - the problem is that there are still too many unsuspecting peeps who will pay money for crap like this...

CTcollector

<< <i>When you see a toned coin described with "rare colors", do you become suspicous, wondering *how* those rare colors occured, and *why* they happen to appear on a particular coin when they're so unusual for other coins in the series? >>



Yep and what is even more suspicous is how more and more coins tend to pop up with that same color after the first uncovered rarity sells for a huge premium.

PerryHall

After reading the threads on this subject over the past few days, any toning on any coin makes me suspecious.

291fifth

I'm amazed that anyone is willing to pay a premium for toned coins. There are just too many games being played.

ANACONDA

How about MORE NOW THAN EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

lsica

I'm sure when the color on the coin spills onto the holder that makes people particularly suspicious ;-)

TomB

It's rather strange for me to see that folks seem to concentrate on how a toned coin gained its appearance without mentioning that they ever wonder about how any other coin (white, circulated, gold, etc...) attained its appearance. Of course, the title of the thread directs the notion toward toned coins, but in my opinion every coin has to be analyzed in an attempt to uncover previous manipulation or alteration.

bestclser1

<< <i>It's rather strange for me to see that folks seem to concentrate on how a toned coin gained its appearance without mentioning that they ever wonder about how any other coin (white, circulated, gold, etc...) attained its appearance. Of course, the title of the thread directs the notion toward toned coins, but in my opinion every coin has to be analyzed in an attempt to uncover previous manipulation or alteration. >>

More alteration goes on with non toned coins in this day and age.Believe it or not.

lsica

<< <i>After reading the threads on this subject over the past few days, any toning on any coin makes me suspecious >>



Yup.. I always have my bottle of Tarn-X ready for the dip job on those ugly old brown coppers ;-) ;-)

kryptonitecomics

I know what colors should and should not be on a coin, how the color progression should be, methods of toning........so no I am not suspicious of a rare color per say but rather I am suspicios of strange color patterns that are rare for a series or a particular look of a coin but no more so now then I was 1 year ago.

dragon

<< <i>When you see a toned coin described with "rare colors", do you become suspicous, wondering *how* those rare colors occured, and *why* they happen to appear on a particular coin when they're so unusual for other coins in the series? >>




It's not just the particular colors but also many other factors that are usually noticable at first glance by anyone who knows anything about toned coins, of course most people do not.

Kip

you can do that with a quick trip to the Safeway or Vons. Sulfer from the drug area, selsen blue from the hair goods area, heat lamp from the lighting department and a couple other items for the reds...
Have fun

ModernDollarNut

<< <i>I'm amazed that anyone is willing to pay a premium for toned coins. There are just too many games being played. >>



As a dealer (well, wannabe dealer) in modern dollars, I have a handful of nicely toned Morgans in my case to slow traffic that would otherwise accellerate by my table...... Most are in PCGS Green Holders so they pre-date the current AT craze.

I thought I was getting pretty good at spotting AT by colors, by integration with luster, by at least some hits showing original metal, and so on. Today, however, I opened a Federal Reserve roll of 1979-P SBAs: the end coin reverse is a strong almost uniform blue which carries into every scratch and hit: I would have quickly judged it to be AT had I not pulled it from this original role myself. Just goes to show it can work the other way, too, where AT-like coins are spurned inspite of great beauty. Rob