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Is it just me, or are these CCDN ("Bluesheet") headlines overdone and/or misleading?

"Classic Silver Commemoratives Rack up Gains"

With 95 different issues, including dates and types being listed, at a minimum, approximately how many would you expect to be showing gains, based on that headline?


"Mint State Type Advances"

With 94 different types being listed, at a minimum, approximately how many would you expect to be showing gains, based on that headline?

Answers to be revealed later today.

Comments

  • You'd hope more than 2 or 3, but we both know that this isn't the truth..
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    About 15 to 20 each.
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    I would say at least 5% to 10% need to make gains for the headline to be true.

    Tom
    Tom

  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I'd say ten in each category.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say it is one of those relative things -- meaning relative to what is normal. But I'm always skeptical of claims made in articles, newspapers, and especially advertizing.

    So, I'm saying 5 or less...image
    Doug
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does anyone actually use the bluesheet other than for buying from the ignorant?




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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    If my math is correct......

    For PCGS certified classic silver commemoratives, 6 of the 95 issues advanced in priice and 10 declined. As a reminder, part of the headline read "Classic Silver Commemoratives Rack up Gains".

    For PCGS certified mint state type coins, 4 of the 94 issues advanced in price and 1 declined.

    Edited to add:

    << <i>Does anyone actually use the bluesheet other than for buying from the ignorant? >>

    Yes. Listed "values" for numerous coins and/or grades are not easily accessible elsewhere, and the CCDN can often serve as a decent starting point. Believe it or not, depending upon market conditions and the coins themselves, some coins are worth less than the listed prices.
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No proof in the pudding there. I think greysheet shows even less, with just a few + signs in the last sheet or two. Having said that, interest seems to be picking up a bit in these two areas. So, are the published prices off and not the headline?
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.

  • I have noticed some also. Look at the 17S or 18S Lincoln's in MS 65 Red for example. Grey Sheet has the 17S at $5,500 Ask and the 18S at $6,100 Ask. They are going for around $20,000 in PCGS Holders. NGC coins are going for less than Grey Sheet. So what TPG coins is the nGrey Sheet really it referring too?
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    So 6 up + 10 down = "rack up gains"? Excellent spin! image

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

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