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I was wondering if I could tap your opinions on whether or not I should send this card into PSA. I have never done it before and I want to make sure I don't get an OC attached to the grade! Thanks for your help!

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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Ouch! PRO is notorious for grading trimmed cards. My worry would not be about a qualifier but an ungradeable card.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • Welcome Cincyfan!

    I hate to tell you this, but the chances are that it will not cross over to PSA at all since PSA won't grade trimmed cards. PRO grading has about as poor of a reputation among card collectors as you can get. Most, if not all, of the guys of this board will run fast and far from anything in a PRO holder.

    If it isn't trimmed, counterfeit, or otherwise altered, you could always request no qualifiers. The card looks like it would be a PSA 7 candidate.

    Best of luck to you if you do submit it.
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    I don't normally assume a card is trimmed whenever it's in another holder besides PSA, but with Pro Cards, I would have to say that if the corners/edges look halfway decent, it's extremely likely that some alterations have been made. I'd pass on this one if you're thinking of picking it up.
  • I picked this card up already graded by Pro. I have some other Leaf cards I can compare it to to see if it may be trimmed as well as measuring it. If it is not trimmed, what is your opinion on the grade it might compare to on PSA. Obviously, I don't think a 9.5 would compare to a PSA 9 or 10, but would hope it would at least be a 7 and maybe an 8?
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    I think at best, it would be a 7, but it's difficult to tell without a larger scan. This is assuming that it has not been trimmed or altered in anyway.
  • Hard to tell. Get a little color on the logo rookie!image
    My focus, 1970 Topps Baseball Raw and Graded, pre 1989 PSA Hockey and 1933 INDIAN GUM ! Yikes!!
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    Hi Cincy,

    If the person who submitted this card knows anything about the graded card industry the odds that this card isn't trimmed is essentially zero. The only way this card is unaltered is if the person who sent it in didn't know about PRO's reputation-- i.e., a hobby 'newbie' who had some cards laying around and saw an ad for PRO in Beckett. If this card was submitted by a dealer or even halfway knowledgable collector, though, I wouldn't waste the money submitting it to PSA. Even if it measures up right it could be bleached, recolored, restored, etc. etc.
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    Just to be perfectly clear. Much of the distain felt here for Pro Cards is not just personal bias like your SGC vs PSA vs BGS vs GAI threads. Many here have been burned at one time or another. Just recently, a fake OPC Gretzky rookie in a Pro holder was yanked off eBay, mainly due to board members here spotting the problem and forcing the seller to remove the auction.

    Here is good article that actually documents a test submission using Pro. An Experiment with PRO
  • Thanks for the information about Pro. I think I am going to send it into PSA and see what happens. If it is trimmed - it is trimmed and at least with this card, no one will be taken advantage of again. If not, then it is in a PSA holder where it probably should be (IMO).
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