New PCGS UK Registry sets added.

tonyhar · February 21, 2006 4:45PM

The increase in Registry sets for Great Britain Coins has started with Crowns and Half Crowns up and running.

I will be interested if this creates much interest.

BTW this is not a bash slabbed coins or the Registry Craze! opportunity.

I donot have many graded but they are listed to act as a start up.

1jester · February 21, 2006 6:09PM

Interesting development. I'm sure it will increase interest and prices on all registry set items, and perhaps draw Litesiders into this "new" arena of collecting.

MacCrimmon · February 21, 2006 10:58PM

Date sets?

Jeez Louise!! Maybe I can finish those by the time I'm 100.

These crowns need to be broken down into Young Head, Jubilee Head, and Old Head.

The half crowns should be at least should be broken into Young Head (actually, several variants in the headbands), the later Young Head (lower relief), Jubilee, and Old Head.

The same goes for all series, and denominations for the Registry concept to be realistically feasible.

Even a basic type set with gold and without would garner the most interest, IMO.

If date sets are de rigour in PCGSs thinking, then I would think copper will garner more registries than any of the others.

There's my initial quids worth.

AuldFartte · February 21, 2006 11:49PM

I agree with Mac. The only thing I would be tempted to participate in would be a Victorian Type Set, either with or without gold. I expect PCGS will get there someday, though. Seems to me to be a decent increase in collecting interest in British lately.

drjules · February 21, 2006 11:53PM

At least Elizabeth II crowns should be easy enough to complete

drjules · February 21, 2006 11:54PM

No proof crowns though

Dr J

MacCrimmon · February 22, 2006 12:08AM

<< At least Elizabeth II crowns should be easy enough to complete

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Yes, sorry for my Victoria-centric semi-rant.

tonyhar · February 22, 2006 12:15AM

I thought this thread might bring some interesting comments, I cannot wait for the other values are listed

cosmicdebris · February 22, 2006 12:37AM

The comments here suggest PCGS did not do any market research before adding these sets.

weresteve · February 22, 2006 1:02AM

<< The comments here suggest PCGS did not do any market research before adding these sets. >>

They rarely do for darkside ... let along greyside. I wonder if they even know how to use the Charlton Catalog let alone Spink's. Some of the Elizabeth II Canadian sets still need work tho' they are starting to fix some of the mistakes they made there. I guess they finally figured out there were no 2001-P Loonies ...

Personally, I wouldn't mind some variety in the UK sets provided they could learn to break things up by monarch and major variety within monarchs. Guess they still need some work on the UK crowns tho' ... unless they don't consider any crowns minted after 1970 to be true crowns but rather 25p coins. Oh well ... time to start pestering to see if any of the minor coinage both pre and post decimalization will be included.

coinkat · February 22, 2006 7:35AM

Just curious... what is the interest here? I like UK coins but I have yet to do the Registry... There is something to be said about sharing and the pictures, but I still have conceptual issues with rankings and the whole notion that collections can be ranked...

weresteve · February 22, 2006 11:31AM

<< Just curious... what is the interest here? I like UK coins but I have yet to do the Registry... There is something to be said about sharing and the pictures, but I still have conceptual issues with rankings and the whole notion that collections can be ranked... >>

For me it would be something different than all the hype and high prices on the lightside ... while some darkside can be pricey ... imagine if it were the same mintages on the lightside. As far as ratings go ... go by mintage figures if and when available?

Aethelred · February 22, 2006 12:27PM

<< The comments here suggest PCGS did not do any market research before adding these sets. >>

I don't recall them dropping in here to ask us what we think, or did I miss that?

coinkat · February 22, 2006 8:01PM

I really don't know how they do the ratings... I am sure someone was consulted. I will say the 1697 Crown is quite rare... very rare. Is 4 an appropriate rating? I just don't know...

As for mintage figures... George I and George II Crowns likely have low mintages. Charles II Crowns do not, however, high grade examples that are well struck are tough. William and Mary Crowns are also tough in high grades. The Crown date sets will be a bit of a challenge to complete.

I think one must look at surviving pops and how many have been graded. I am not sure if PCGS publishes or provides pops of graded world coins

SYRACUSIAN · February 22, 2006 10:09PM

How do they decide about the new Registries? How much will I have to wait for a Swiss one? PCGS has graded (and overgraded) way too many Swiss coins ever since their Old Green holders, I think that it will create much interest ,competition and a readjustment of the prices of some undervalued coins too.

Twice I posted a question in the Q&A forum and twice I've been ignored.

MacCrimmon · February 22, 2006 10:37PM

<< How do they decide about the new Registries? How much will I have to wait for a Swiss one? PCGS has graded (and overgraded) way too many Swiss coins ever since their Old Green holders, I think that it will create much interest ,competition and a readjustment of the prices of some undervalued coins too.

Twice I posted a question in the Q&A forum and twice I've been ignored. >>

PCGS has been promising a Swiss registry for at least 2 years. Compared to the UK complexities the Swiss registry would be pre-K material.

coinkat · February 23, 2006 6:05AM

I would have anticipated a Swiss Registry set before a British set and I agree with Mac that it would be easier and there is alot of interest.

newsman · February 23, 2006 12:58PM

<< How do they decide about the new Registries? How much will I have to wait for a Swiss one? PCGS has graded (and overgraded) way too many Swiss coins ever since their Old Green holders, I think that it will create much interest ,competition and a readjustment of the prices of some undervalued coins too.

Twice I posted a question in the Q&A forum and twice I've been ignored. >>

I'd be curious to know who -- if anyone -- they are listening to if it's not us. I'm guessing there has to be some logic behind which sets are added when.

Maybe if you submitted 1,000 or more Swiss coins at once your question might be answered.

Sylvestius · February 24, 2006 3:55AM

This isn't the first British registry set material as far as i'm aware. I'm sure someone had a registry set of half guineas.

Aethelred · February 24, 2006 4:10AM

<< 

I'd be curious to know who -- if anyone -- they are listening to if it's not us. I'm guessing there has to be some logic behind which sets are added when.

Maybe if you submitted 1,000 or more Swiss coins at once your question might be answered.

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As I recall, the first British sets were added just after Dr. Turner had his collection of British gold graded.

weresteve · February 24, 2006 4:22AM

<< As I recall, the first British sets were added just after Dr. Turner had his collection of British gold graded. >>

Well ... they just added two more denominations ... Shillings and Three Shillings. Looks like £ sterling is the order of the day ...

Aethelred · February 24, 2006 4:47AM

<< 

Well ... they just added two more denominations ... Shillings and Three Shillings. Looks like £ sterling is the order of the day ... >>

They are moving in the right direction.

MacCrimmon · February 24, 2006 4:57AM

L@@K!! L@@K!!! The ALL-TIME FINEST set of Victorian Shillings on the UK Registry

Only 62 more to go . . . . .

1jester · February 24, 2006 5:11AM

<< L@@K!! L@@K!!! The ALL-TIME FINEST set of Victorian Shillings on the UK Registry

Only 62 more to go . . . . .

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Whoooooaaaaaaahhh!!!!! RESPECT!!!!!!!!

PS: I can't wait till you get all yours graded, including the proofs....

Aethelred · February 24, 2006 5:13AM

I think I would trade a vital organ for that Shilling!!!!!

MacCrimmon · February 24, 2006 5:20AM

<< I think I would trade a vital organ for that Shilling!!!!! >>

Would that be acceptable to Queenie?

Aethelred · February 24, 2006 5:45AM

<< 

<< I think I would trade a vital organ for that Shilling!!!!! >>

Would that be acceptable to Queenie?

>>

It would depend on the nature of the organ in question.

1jester · February 24, 2006 6:29AM

Makes me wonder what a rodent would do with said vital organ?

MacCrimmon · February 24, 2006 6:33AM

<< Makes me wonder what a rodent would do with said vital organ?

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I'd "bob" it . . . . since we're talking shillings......

coinkat · February 24, 2006 10:23AM

I would have thought perhaps the set would have been broken up based upon the obverse...

SYRACUSIAN · February 24, 2006 10:38AM

There are almost 10 different categories created for Japan, and only 2 or 3 collections are registered. Other than a complete gold 5 coin type set, the only two other sets I saw have 3-6% completion, when they could have had dozens of Swiss sets, type and/or date and denomination ones at much higher rates and participation.And France, Italy,Russia etc etc.

weresteve · February 24, 2006 10:43AM

Smoebody at PCGS decided the Japanese registry sets were a good idea because a large horde was going to be sold of by a Japanese Bank and they were hoping to capitalize on the situation ... believe it was annouced as part of one of the Set Registry newsletters.

New PCGS UK Registry sets added.

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