Strange submission results....

rainbowroosie · February 20, 2006 4:23AM

........I openly state that I can no longer grade roosies........

The below 20 coins were all color coins, with 10 being really nice roosies. On the plus side, I picked the exact grade for every non-roosie -- yes, I really did pick 10 for 10 in advance -- a first ever!!!!!

On the minus side, I got HAMMERED on the roosies, which is my series!!!!! ......I sent 10 super coins --- take a look -- 66, 66, 66, 66, 66, etc.... even a 65!!!!

Well, maybe I was wrong ten times in a row...I cannot think of any other alternative....can anyone else fathom why this occurred???

Yes, Nick...these are the roosies you (and Craig) said to send, so you went "0" fer 10 like I did!!!!

1 09740951 1931-S 1C USA XF45BN
2 09740952 1936 1C USA MS66RD
3 09740953 1947 50C USA MS64
4 09740954 1961 10C USA PR65
5 09740955 1957 25C USA PR66
6 09740956 1960 10C USA PR68CA
7 09740957 1941-S 25C USA AU58
8 09740958 1964 50C USA MS65
9 09740959 1964-D 25C USA MS65
10 09740960 1956 50C USA MS64FL
11 09740961 1953-S 10C USA MS66
12 09740962 1949-S 10C USA MS66
13 09740963 1962-D 10C USA MS66FB
14 09740964 1962-D 10C USA MS66
15 09740965 1951-S 10C USA MS66
16 09740966 1955-S 10C USA MS66
17 09740967 1948 10C USA MS65FB
18 09740968 1949-D 10C USA MS66FB
19 09740969 1949-S 10C USA MS66
20 09740970 1949-S 10C USA MS66

Date Received: 01/13/2006
Date Shipped: 02/17/2006

Russ · February 20, 2006 4:30AM

On the plus side, anytime you can submit 20 toners to PCGS and come away without a single bodybag you've done damned well.

Russ, NCNE

LucyBop · February 20, 2006 5:13AM

<< On the plus side, anytime you can submit 20 toners to PCGS and come away without a single bodybag you've done damned well.

Russ, NCNE >>

I agree 100%....

sounds like they were tough on the Roosies, but no BB's is good...

MrEureka · February 20, 2006 5:23AM

You expected the 41-S quarter to grade 58 and you still sent it in?

DIMEMAN · February 20, 2006 5:26AM

I take it they were supposed to be 67's or better. I for one can't tell much difference between a 66 and a 67. I guess it depends on the price jump between the grades that makes them grade tighter or not.

I would be interested in the 62-D in 66 NB if you want to sell it. That's pretty much my grade range for roosies.

Jon

ModernDollarNut · February 20, 2006 5:32AM

Any possibility PCGS gave out stronger loupes for MS moderns???? Rob

fcloud · February 20, 2006 5:37AM

The last group of four Roosevelts I sent I got hammered. I think they go tougher, but they would argue they haven't changed their standard, so you must need new glasses or smoething.

1 03135828 1972 1C USA MS66RD This one turned out to be a DD Die#2. This is the only coin in the lot I had graded lower than PCGS; I was higher on everything else.
2 03135829 1968 10C USA MS65
3 03135830 1989-P 10C USA MS66
4 03135831 1997-D 10C USA MS65
5 03135832 1998-D 10C USA MS65
6 03135833 1976 25C Clad USA MS65
7 03135834 1976-D 25C Clad USA MS66

MrEureka · February 20, 2006 5:47AM

I guess it depends on the price jump between the grades that makes them grade tighter or not.

You've got that backwards. It's the grading style that causes the price jump.

tjkillian · February 20, 2006 5:48AM

Congratulations! I have never had a coin I submitted to PCGS ever come back as high as MS-65. Almost all the coins I submit come back MS-64 and lower. Mostly Seated Liberty coins and Indians, but still...

I would be very, very happy to make a MS-65 coin. An MS-66 coin is what wet dreams are made of.

Congratulations!!

Tom

Bear · February 20, 2006 5:50AM

How is this for a creative idea I got from

the local car wash. You send a coin in for grading

with a punch card. On the 10th punch, you get an

automatic one point upgrade on the coin. This does not

apply to crack outs nor to coins in excess of 100 dollars

retail value.

au58 · February 20, 2006 7:05AM

<< You expected the 41-S quarter to grade 58 and you still sent it in? >>

Everyone needs a set up coin.

lablover · February 20, 2006 7:07AM

<< I guess it depends on the price jump between the grades that makes them grade tighter or not. >>

Dimeman,
Could you explain to me why "price" has something to do with grade. I've heard this before and no has been able to provide a clear understanding. I guess it depends on who's submitting and if PCGS wants them to make any money.

lablover · February 20, 2006 7:10AM

<< Well, maybe I was wrong ten times in a row...I cannot think of any other alternative....can anyone else fathom why this occurred??? >>

Your not Nick or Craig?

Colorfulcoins · February 20, 2006 7:26AM

Bill, told you so. But did you listen??????

Nick and I haven't been submitting Rosy's to PCGS for this reason. But, you had to find out the hard way didn't you? Now you have some pretty 66's to show for it!

The last raw Rosy I sent to PCGS was a squeeky clean 1963-P that I felt was a solid MS67. Came back in a MS65 holder! I jokingly call the coin a MS67 trapped in a MS65 holder! Its on ebay now at 99 cents...ebay Link

rainbowroosie · February 20, 2006 7:38AM

"You expected the 41-S quarter to grade 58 and you still sent it in?"

Yes, stooopid obverse color, was "hoping they would 62 it...it is still worth the fee just to have them say it is NOT AT...

Craig,
I have 33 more coins at NGC....let's see what happens there????!!!!????

lablover · February 20, 2006 10:04AM

I have 33 more coins at NGC

Bill,
You have to many coins! By the way, I'll break down and buy some of those MS66's and take em off your hands. You can't have them sitting around the 67's and 68's you have. They may infect your set.

SUPERCARCOINS · February 20, 2006 10:32AM

let me join the club ; had

a recent Pcgs submission of a dozen Roosie's -

almost all were rainbows.

i got 6 MS-66's , the rest 65's and a couple of 64's for pete's sakes !!

I was expecting at least half of them to 67 .............

so , we agree ? now's a bad time to send Roosies for grading

p8nt · February 20, 2006 10:37AM

Pooh. I have a rainbow Roosie in for grading right now

Russ · February 20, 2006 10:40AM

<< now's a bad time to send Roosies for grading >>

It ain't just Roosies.

Russ, NCNE

DHeath · February 20, 2006 10:45AM

link to my whining.

SUPERCARCOINS · February 20, 2006 11:31AM

<< 

<< now's a bad time to send Roosies for grading >>

It ain't just Roosies.

Russ, NCNE >>

......you can say that again -

try getting a cameo on the S.M.S stuff

:

Colorfulcoins · February 20, 2006 11:35AM

Here's the last color coin I got.......a 66 all right!

KevinMcMillen · February 20, 2006 11:46AM

<< You expected the 41-S quarter to grade 58 and you still sent it in? >>

4 09740954 1961 10C USA PR65 How about this one whats it worth ?

I had a set 1946 - 1964 complete all PCGS ms 66 a lot in rattlers I sold it for $850 at FUN thats less than 20 per coin average most had nice color. I bought it about a year ago started asking $1000. kept lowering the price until it sold for the same I paid.

What is the wholesale value of 1950 s & 1951 s in ms 67 ?

rainbowroosie · February 20, 2006 11:59AM

4 09740954 1961 10C USA PR65 How about this one whats it worth ?

That one is worth going in my set...it is a looker!!!

Will bump the coin that's in there now, which is graded much higher...I like COLOR!!

onlyroosies · February 20, 2006 12:21PM

Bill, Bill, Bill...How many times have I told you. You only send Roosies to PCGS via NGC first. I hope you
know that almost all those NGC 68's you have would probably only grade 66 at PCGS....

You better pack them all up and send them my way. I'll pay you 67 money for them....

Yes, Nick...these are the roosies you (and Craig) said to send, so you went "0" fer 10 like I did!!!!

Bill, I believe Craig and I said to send them to NGC first.

rainbowroosie · February 20, 2006 12:22PM

Nick,
Fortunately, I sent the best ones to NGC!!! I want that 56D to 68!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LincolnsRule · February 20, 2006 12:42PM

They have graders who won't give out an ms67 to any such coin even if it's perfect. My expertise is Lincolns...

One bulk submission 200 coins, 119 coins grade ms66, 0 ms67.
next one also 200 coins.... 117 coins grade ms66, 19 coins grade ms67 (1 pop 4, all below pop 33)
next one 100 coins... 13 coins grade ms66, 1 ms67

The quality was IDENTICAL in these 3 submissions. It's just whoever is doing the grading that day. It really really stinks, doesn't it.

rainbowroosie · February 20, 2006 12:52PM

Yes.

KevinMcMillen · February 20, 2006 9:26PM

What is the wholesale value of 1950 s & 1951 s in ms 67 ?

Roosie experts how about it.

onlyroosies · February 21, 2006 1:24AM

"What is the wholesale value of 1950 s & 1951 s in ms 67 ? "

Non-FB $30 - $100 - average white, $30. pretty 2 sided toner, $100+

FB $300 - $700 an average joe white coin with no pop, $300. Very attractive toned coin with booming luster, $700

bushmaster8 · February 21, 2006 2:40AM

Well the good news is even 66's are bringing decent money in this color-driven market.

Superlardcoins did quite well with his colored 66's on Teletrade.

SUPERCARCOINS · February 21, 2006 7:16AM

..........yes, yes indeed

got 180$ for a PCGS 51-S qUARTER in MS-65 , AND 380$ for a '55 in MS-66 ............

some tonelover bought a 52-S dime in 66 for 180$ !!

Colorfulcoins · February 21, 2006 7:40AM

Man, I'd sell my MS66's for that kind of money all day long................and maybe I should!

Rainy, wanna hock some of the PCGS MS66's on TT for $180?

KevinMcMillen · February 21, 2006 11:57AM

Thanks

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