Grading Company in Canada KSA ?

poppie

My understanding is that KSA is pretty good. I wondered if anyone has had any crossover to PSA experience to share. YZERMAN #67 KSA 10

mikeschmidt

I haven't had specific experience with KSA - but I generally have heard good things.

That said - crossing over a GEM MINT card from one company's holder to another company's holder [especially if you are not going to crack the card], has to be one of the more difficult things there is to do. Seriously. All the other company has to do [in this case, PSA], is find one or two things wrong with the card, say it can't be a 10, and then satisfy themselves that they are a tougher grader than KSA.

poppie

Make a lot of sense. I wonder if they grade sheet cuts like BGC as i can not tell from the scan.

poppie

Yikes! Ijust answered my own question !!!! "Q: Hi Will you ship to Canada? Also is there a listing for the KSA 9.5? Thanks for your time.
Feb-08-06
A: Hello, yes I will ship to canada and I have not listed the 9.5. It is a litter crisper than the 10, but the cutter didn't trim the left side very well.... "

raym8

I have broken out many KSA cards for resubmission to PSA. As a general rule, KSA cards tend to grade out about one grade less. I have had a few cross over at the same grade, but most come in one grade lower. Also, as you have already found out, KSA will grade sheet cut cards, which PSA will not.

EagleEyeKid

Ray, nice pick up on the PSA 10 Yzerman.
Wish I had that kind of dough.

Poppie, KSA suks! Don't waste your time/money on them.

poppie

Nice pick up also Ray. I was second and thought that I left enough cushion in my bid while I was out of town to get it. If you hear of another please let me me know.

raym8

Poppie,

You should look into using a sniping service. You would have won the card if you had sniped the auction instead of entering so many bids. My original snipe amount was less than your maximum. I only upped that amount after seeing you enter so many bids.

Check out www.justsnipe.com or www.esnipe.com

They are well worth it.

Best,
Ray

poppie

Ray: Thanks for the advise. I will try it next year when another #67 comes up! Actually I will make good use of it on a few that i am always watching. STILLLL..............

Knuckles

KSA is horrible... paid big money on a KSA 8 Bobby Orr Rookie card quite awhile back before KSA even had a bad rep.. also a Gretzky RC KSA 8...

The Orr came back as trimmed.. The Gretz came back as a 4..


They suck balls.

poppie

Knuckles, it sounds like KSA is a subsidiary of BGS ! Ray, I am very much after a few cards in the current Goodwin auction. Is this snipping approach used there also or just eBay?

raym8

The snipe services are only good for ebay. You can't use them for any of the major auction houses.

However, it is still always to your best benefit to place your max bid as close to the end of the auction as possible.

Ray

Fletch1750

KSA has clearly passed GAI when it comes to overall qualiy of the product.

ArtRossLives

I've crossed over about 12 KSA to PSA and lost at least 1 grade and generally 2 each time. Take 2 off when your figuring pricing for bids.

msassin

Wanted to ask about KSA and I found this thread.

Am I fairly safe in thinking that they only grade unaltered cards (not talking about sheet cut cards)?

Blackie

I purchased a KSA graded 71 Ryan at one time and it came back graded the same grade PSA. Then I flipped it on ebay and it paid for itself (grading fee) and profit.........

rube26105

never heard of em-ill agree with garrett though since hes in Canada and is cool lol
randy