Interesting...any thoughts

sandmanfromlv

This guy in the auction goes to great lengths (actually good article about 86 Fleer hoops fakes) to warn against fakes

link to auction


anyone care to comment on this card (I will keep my thought to myself not to influence any others for now)

ldferg

i'm going to say the jordan pictured is legit. now whether it's the one you will receive is another story.

Stone193

Sandman

The writeup by the seller on Jordan counterfeits is tremendous. Is it a smoke screen? I don't know.

In the early days, the cards were rescreened and easy to detect since when you looked at the logo under 10X - the solid black lines were seen as "print dots" in the fakes - it should remain as a solid black line.

But, as time went on, with laser printing, the fakes got better and better. And it's harder to detect the fakes from the front.

You have to look on the back at the logos to detect the fake.

So, what to do? Well, there's corner wear on the upper left - is that to deceive one into thinking it's good?

I say buy'm graded?
mike

Stone193

OK, is this front crown real or fake?

mike

Knuckles

It's fake.

edited to add.. (The RC posted to begin with not the crown mike posted)

lawnmowerman

<< <i>It's fake. >>

whats the giveaway? thanks I missed that

Matt

Carew29

from Seinfeld show--" Fake,fake,fake,fake,fake,fake"

sandmanfromlv

right side looks trimmed (Unless scan is of a bowed card)

phreakydancin

<< <i>

<< <i>It's fake. >>

whats the giveaway? thanks I missed that

Matt >>

From what I understand, the yellow banner around the crown is two tones of yellow on the real ones, all one colour on the fakes. Mike's example is genuine; you can see where it hangs down on the right it is a darker colour, as well as where it goes behind the crown.

nightcrawler

That's not a scan it's a picture close up, probably a macro shot. Tough to take one without that bowed effect unless your a few feet away.

TripleCrown

Just FYI guys,
The 1994 Sportscard Counterfeit Detector lists 7 (that's right, 7) different counterfeit versions of this card.

Fabfrank

This is from memory, but I believe this is fake. 2 reasons, the red dots in the yellow banner. The banner I believe should be solid yellow. Also, and more telling that it's a fake, under the word "Premiere" the black border should be solid. That border has the red dot matrix in it.

Knuckles

Arrow should be very noticeably orange-ish.

Like this one..





Didn't know there were fakes with little orange dots..