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Detroit Tiger Fans - What do you think about Bonderman and Verlander rookie cards?
ndleo
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I was thinking about making a huge bet on Bonderman and Verlander autograph rookie cards. I think the Tigers should be able to score more and Leyland will develop the young pitchers.
Bonderman's 2005 ended badly last year, but he still had a winning record (14-13) and had an All-Star quality first half.
What do you guys think?
Bonderman's 2005 ended badly last year, but he still had a winning record (14-13) and had an All-Star quality first half.
What do you guys think?
Mike
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1) Steve Carlton
2) Tom Seaver
3) Nolan Ryan
4) Roger Clemens
5) Greg Maddux
6) Randy Johnson
So basically you need 300 wins (or close to it) and a HOF career to get any hobby love whatsoever. I know this doesn't include guys like Blyleven, Eckersley, Fingers, etc., who all had fairly distinguished careers, but their RC's are not worth a huge premium (say, 100x what a common is worth). The market for pitchers trends sharply downward after they hit the majors, and rarely spikes back up. Look at Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, etc. I would hate to have a pile of high end RC's of any of these guys.
You live in Det, so maybe you could move some of these at Gibraltar if either got hot. That's definitely a factor to consider. But as far as a long term investment goes, is it fair to ask either of these guys to have a better career then Jack Morris, Frank Viola or Dave Steib?
After pitching a shutout his first start, I thought, how could I go wrong?
IMHO that is a cheap price for a certified autograph of a young pitcher. My bet is that the Tigers have a good season and Bonderman becomes an ace. Everyone in Detroit knows that a competitive baseball team would draw huge interest.
I'm just thankful there's other Tiger fans on this planet.
The vintage pitchers especially - just look at cards like Carlton and Ryan RCs.
I definitely think the sluggers outdistance them in demand and price.
Very confusing? Ya need the pitchers.
In fact, don't they say good pitching will....
mike
2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25
2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9
Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs
Nothing on ebay
(9) 2003 Bonderman autos for $198 ($22 each), (6) are #'d to 50, (3) #'d to 100.
(6) 2005 Verlander autos for $137 ($22.83 each), (1) is #'d to 10 - cost $55. Without the low number RC, the average Verlander cost is $16.40.
I will probably try to get 50 of each. To me this is cheaper than gambling in the casino. There are many more Verlander autos out there, so I expect prices to fall going into Spring Training. Bonderman autos are popular, there seems to be a few other big buyers out there.
-- Yogi Berra
Does anyone remember when Beachbum was trying to corner the market on Cole Hamel cards?
Boy did the fur fly here one day!
mike
edit: BTW, I miss the Beachman!
<< <i>I was thinking about making a huge bet on Bonderman and Verlander autograph rookie cards. I think the Tigers should be able to score more and Leyland will develop the young pitchers.
Bonderman's 2005 ended badly last year, but he still had a winning record (14-13) and had an All-Star quality first half.
What do you guys think? >>
I've come from the future to tell you: By all means, go ahead and make that bet on Verlander. Forget about Bonderman though.
I'm bad at the internet, so I hope this message reaches you in your current year of 2006.
It is 2012 here and still no flying cars.
In the course of every human endeavor since the dawn of time the risk of human error has always been a factor. Including but not limited to field goals, 4th down attempts, or multiple paragraph ramblings on a sports forum authored by someone who shall remain anonymous.
<< <i>If you absolutely have to have pitchers, then forget those 2 guys and spend however much you were planning on picking up PSA 10's of 85 donruss Clemens cards. >>
It's posts like this that make thread revivals so entertaining.
I should have reloaded on Verlander again after his 11-17 season. I guess my feeling about the team was spot on.
<< <i>To complete the story, I ended up with a little less than 50 of each. I sold the Bonderman's at the start of the season for a small profit. He started strong that year. I kept the Verlanders until the end of the season and sold the entire stash during the World Series run.
I should have reloaded on Verlander again after his 11-17 season. I guess my feeling about the team was spot on. >>
Thanks for the update, it would be cool if you still had those Verlanders'. I started a basic Verlander set and did a search of his name on this board and found this thread.
In the course of every human endeavor since the dawn of time the risk of human error has always been a factor. Including but not limited to field goals, 4th down attempts, or multiple paragraph ramblings on a sports forum authored by someone who shall remain anonymous.
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<< <i>To complete the story, I ended up with a little less than 50 of each. I sold the Bonderman's at the start of the season for a small profit. He started strong that year. I kept the Verlanders until the end of the season and sold the entire stash during the World Series run.
I should have reloaded on Verlander again after his 11-17 season. I guess my feeling about the team was spot on. >>
Thanks for the update, it would be cool if you still had those Verlanders'. I started a basic Verlander set and did a search of his name on this board and found this thread. >>
I wish I had them too!
I was more sure about Bonderman than Verlander. Bonderman was a big country boy who I thought would develop into a Jack Morris type. He lost 19 games in his first year. I thought he was much more mature than Verlander even though he was only a few years older.
There were a couple of others buying up Bonderman's when I was chasing them, that is why I didn't make that much, my cost started climbing and I just bailed. I wonder if they sold before his shoulder gave out.