<< <i>I've seen coins of his not labeled "REX POL", which were issued for Saxony, and I was under the impression that those so marked were for Poland. In other words, did he mint coins for two markets, with and without the REX POL label? Is your coin a Polish coin, or a Saxon coin? Is my quarter ducat a Saxon coin or a Polish coin? That's what I'm curious about. >>
Well, I guess the answer depends on your interpretation. Kopicki lists the coin as #10967 in its list of Polish coins. Krause lists it under German States: Saxony (as does Davenport). The reverse of the coin depicts the Polish arms and the Saxon arms. One might argue it's both, I suppose. Surely the coin was intended to circulate in both areas (which is likely why Kopicki lists it). Friedrich Augustus' coinage until 1698 only bore the title of Duke/Elector of Saxony. That changed after his election as King of Poland following the death(?) of Johann III Sobieski in 1696. Poland does not appear to have any autonomous coinage between the years of 1696 and the 1740s so I suppose the best way to put it is that the coin is Saxon with intention to be used in Saxony which as of 1697 included the territory of Poland.
Maybe a good equivalent is the use of US currency in Puerto Rico and Guam? Maybe not? >>
I agree with your interpretation to a large extent, but I thought a country (Poland) would supercede a duchy/territory (Saxony); I'd prefer to say it's Polish with the intention to be used in Saxony as well. In any case, my quarter ducat, as well as many other similar coins of this Frederick and his son had only the Polish coat of arms on the reverse, with no other mention of Saxony save in the title on the obverse; they're referred to as Polish coins. I believe these 2 kings also minted coins with only the Saxon coat of arms for use in Saxony.
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"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
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<< <i>I've seen coins of his not labeled "REX POL", which were issued for Saxony, and I was under the impression that those so marked were for Poland. In other words, did he mint coins for two markets, with and without the REX POL label? Is your coin a Polish coin, or a Saxon coin? Is my quarter ducat a Saxon coin or a Polish coin? That's what I'm curious about.
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Well, I guess the answer depends on your interpretation. Kopicki lists the coin as #10967 in its list of Polish coins. Krause lists it under German States: Saxony (as does Davenport).
The reverse of the coin depicts the Polish arms and the Saxon arms. One might argue it's both, I suppose. Surely the coin was intended to circulate in both areas (which is likely why Kopicki lists it). Friedrich Augustus' coinage until 1698 only bore the title of Duke/Elector of Saxony. That changed after his election as King of Poland following the death(?) of Johann III Sobieski in 1696. Poland does not appear to have any autonomous coinage between the years of 1696 and the 1740s so I suppose the best way to put it is that the coin is Saxon with intention to be used in Saxony which as of 1697 included the territory of Poland.
Maybe a good equivalent is the use of US currency in Puerto Rico and Guam? Maybe not? >>
I agree with your interpretation to a large extent, but I thought a country (Poland) would supercede a duchy/territory (Saxony); I'd prefer to say it's Polish with the intention to be used in Saxony as well.
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
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"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
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