1984 or 1989 – Which is your favorite year for modern football?
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To me these two years just stand head and shoulders above the rest. Have a look:
1984 Topps Rookie Hall-of-Famers
Dan Marino
John Elway
Eric Dickerson
Howie Long
Dwight Stephenson
Jackie Slater
Darrell Green (Future)
Morten Andersen (Future?)
1984 USFL Rookie Hall-of-Famers
Steve Young
Reggie White
Jim Kelly
1989 Score Rookie Hall-of-Famers
Barry Sanders
Troy Aikman
Bruce Matthews (Future)
Cris Carter (Future)
Tim Brown (Future)
Thurman Thomas (Future)
Michael Irvin (Future)
Derrick Thomas (Future)
Deion Sanders (Future)
Rod Woodson (Future)
That's 11 HOF'ers and possible HOF'ers from the '84 sets and 10 HOF'ers and possible HOF'ers from the '89 Score set, and I may have left one or two out too. Talk about two star-studded classes!
1984 Topps Rookie Hall-of-Famers
Dan Marino
John Elway
Eric Dickerson
Howie Long
Dwight Stephenson
Jackie Slater
Darrell Green (Future)
Morten Andersen (Future?)
1984 USFL Rookie Hall-of-Famers
Steve Young
Reggie White
Jim Kelly
1989 Score Rookie Hall-of-Famers
Barry Sanders
Troy Aikman
Bruce Matthews (Future)
Cris Carter (Future)
Tim Brown (Future)
Thurman Thomas (Future)
Michael Irvin (Future)
Derrick Thomas (Future)
Deion Sanders (Future)
Rod Woodson (Future)
That's 11 HOF'ers and possible HOF'ers from the '84 sets and 10 HOF'ers and possible HOF'ers from the '89 Score set, and I may have left one or two out too. Talk about two star-studded classes!
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<< <i>Personally I like 85 and 86 better than both, but that's just me ..................... >>
We're talking Hall of Fame rookie card power years here boss. '85 and '86 don't even come close!
I must say though, I am rather fond of my '85 Topps Joe Morris rookie. Still my favorite Giant!
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<< <i>Personally I like 85 and 86 better than both, but that's just me ..................... >>
We're talking Hall of Fame rookie card power years here boss. >>
Then maybe you should have stated that somewhere in your original post, boss. I like 85 the best.
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<< <i>Then maybe you should have stated that somewhere in your original post, boss. I like 85 the best. >>
The title says '84 or '89. That's pretty darn clear to me. If you're going to bring sarcasm to this thread, go find another one. I was obviously just needling tennesseebanker about the '85 and '86 sets.
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<< <i>Then maybe you should have stated that somewhere in your original post, boss. I like 85 the best. >>
The title says '84 or '89. That's pretty darn clear to me. If you're going to bring sarcasm to this thread, go find another one. I was obviously just needling tennesseebanker about the '85 and '86 sets. >>
Easy Pal, I was just enlightening you that it wasn't clear that you only wanted 84 or 89 or only HOF rc's.
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That would be me.
Both years are great and the player selection beyond just the RC cards are unbelievable. I leaned towards doing the 89 Score over the 84 Topps because I personally had much more 89 Score material to submit. Unfortunately I wasn't getting as many 10's, even though my 9's were just as nice as the 10's I was seeing. I ended up contacting Joe Tuttle and he submitted quite a bit and got the 10's when I didn't. Maybe his eye is better than mine
Here is my a copy of my "owners comments" from my set:
I feel this is the set that rejuvenated the football card market. This 330 card set has a clean design with sharp photography. The three colored borders (Blue, Green, and Red) give the impression that the set was released in series. This set contains the first Score cards of stars such as J. Montana, J. Rice, S. Young, D. Marino and J. Kelly. The set also has the RC cards of sure Hall of Famers C. Carter, R. Woodson, T. Brown, B. Matthews, T. Thomas, D. Sanders, B. Sanders and T. Aikman.
I was going to write an article, but there has been a lot of negative feeling towards modern cards and modern sets on the boards lately. I collect both vintage and modern and love both, but there are some board members that can't get past their vintage bias and either ridicule or bash guys who build modern sets. The irony is they don't collect modern, but feel free to expound on the worthlessness (is that a word) of modern.
Anyway, it's a great set. 1989 to me is better not only because of the impact Rc's, but the amount of veterans in the prime of their careers. I also think it has great value. 9's can be had for the price of grading and 10's trade between $10-$15. If you build the set, do it as a labor of love.
1986 HOF RCs that I'm counting are:
Jerry Rice
Bruce Smith
Andre Reed
Steve Young and Reggie White cards are their first NFL cards, but the USFL issues are more widely regarded as their true rookie cards...Hence their inclusion in the NFL HOF RC set on the registry...
Is their someone I'm missing from 1986??Bernie Kosar and Boomer Esiasion, mentioned earlier in this thread, aren't anywhere near the HOF..Both are eligible and weren't even NOMINEES this year..
1984 Topps and 1989 Score are BY FAR the richest sets from the 80's when it comes to rookie HOFers...Its not even close...
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<< <i>Frank, has anyone ever done an article in SMR concerning your set ?
I was going to write an article, but there has been a lot of negative feeling towards modern cards and modern sets on the boards lately. I collect both vintage and modern and love both, but there are some board members that can't get past their vintage bias and either ridicule or bash guys who build modern sets. The irony is they don't collect modern, but feel free to expound on the worthlessness (is that a word) of modern.
Anyway, it's a great set. 1989 to me is better not only because of the impact Rc's, but the amount of veterans in the prime of their careers. I also think it has great value. 9's can be had for the price of grading and 10's trade between $10-$15. If you build the set, do it as a labor of love. >>
Ah, screw them. I would love reading something on this set. I remember packs were getting some good coin and the factory sets were hot. This set was nice and simple and made peopel realize there was something else to collect besides 89 Upper Deck. To bad Tony Manderich (sp?) was such a flop!
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<< <i>.... I ended up contacting Joe Tuttle and he submitted quite a bit and got the 10's when I didn't. Maybe his eye is better than mine
I don't think his eye is any better. I purchased a group of 1000 PSA 9s from '89 Score and when they arrived they all had "Tuttle" written on the PSA boxes.
The 1989 Score Football set has great player selection. It still has a ton of great players from the '85 Bears, the Niners are of course highly represented and the Giants great team is well depicted. The foundation of the Bills and Cowboys great teams are here as well.
and yes the originator of this thread was clear .
THE TITLE ASKS:
1984 OR 1989
Were you half in the bag last night?
Steve
Anyone ever add up the number of Super Bowl wins of all the HOFers in each set? I would think the 84 set would win that one.
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There was a lot of excitement and people were chasing all kinds of "limited" RCs that year!
BTW, in BKB - my favorite year was 1992 - yes the year of the Shaq!
And in BB, it was also 1992 - people went ape crap over Fleer Ultra that year! The photography was super.
mike
I agree with you on Mandarich. A co-worker of mine is a rabid Packer fan and I enjoy reminding him that Mandarich was taken before B. Sanders
2 of the uniques characteristics of the 89 Score set are the the 3 different colored borders. This gives the impression that the set was issued in Series rather than in one shot. I also like the Speedburners and Predator subsets which highlight some of the games best speedsters and defensive players.
Photography and cardstock are also exceptional for this set. That's what initially got me psyched about the set in 1989. Take a close look at the photos. Score was way ahead of the competition in this area.
Up until this point eveyone was collecting baseball, but the collecting mania hadn't spread to the other sports yet. For all of the above reasons, Score put football card collecting back on the map.
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The fact that Art Monk isn't in is a shame. Of the 3 WR's mentioned, Carter and Brown lead Monk in receptions (1101, 1094 to 940) receiving yards (13899, 14934 to 12721) and Rec TD's (130, 100 to 68). Irvin's stats and achievements are comparable to Monks, and if Irvin is to be considered, than yes, Monk should be too.
Monks big problem is that his stats have already been eclipsed and as current players close in on his numbers (M. Harrison, T. Owens, I. Bruce, K. McCardell, J. Smith, R. Moss), his name drops further down the list.
If he doesn't get in soon (next 1-2 years), his only chance will than be by the veterans committee.
<< <i>Stingray- Ironically I received my PSA Insider email last night, only to find out that my 89 Score Football set was highlighted in the PSA Set Registry Spotlight section. Finally a little recognition.
Nice to hear that, the more I read and hear about this set the more I think about trying it.
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<< <i>I've gotta go with 1984. In addition to the HOFers, it also had some good rookies of some of my favorite Bears players.
Did he not try or make it on the Olympic team for track??
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Did he not try or make it on the Olympic team for track??
Stingray >>
He would have gone to the Summer Olympics in 1980, but the US boycotted. Wikipedia. He was also apparently on the 1988 US Bobsled team. Huh. I've seen some attribution that says he won two Olympic Gold Medals, but there is no substantiation of those reports. He won gold medals at World Championship competitions, but not the Olympics.