Any of you here also coin guys?

zef204 · February 5, 2006 12:30PM

If so, PM me. I acquired some coins that I think may have some value, but there is a lot of hoistitliy over there on the and I really don't want a thousand smart ass answers so I thought I would post it here.

Sorry to bug all my fellow card guys, but I know some of you are into both so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Jordan

Stone193 · February 5, 2006 12:50PM

Jordan

Are you saying the coinheads wouldn't be helpful?

And they always complain we're up tight!

Hmmm.

Sorry I only know the coins will fit in a vending machine.
Good luck
mike

pandrews · February 5, 2006 12:54PM

winpitcher knows coins..

bo knows coins..

zef204 · February 5, 2006 12:56PM

<<

winpitcher knows coins..

bo knows coins.. >>

Like bo knows baseball?

zef204 · February 5, 2006 1:00PM

<< Jordan

Are you saying the coinheads wouldn't be helpful?

And they always complain we're up tight!

Hmmm.

Sorry I only know the coins will fit in a vending machine.
Good luck
mike >>

Mike they think we are hostile because they tell us what we collect is worthless. We would be more than willing to help, as we did when goose3 came over with all those 59's-61's. But they seem as though they may not help the uninformed as we would. So I figured I would start here. Just by a quick eBay search, I see the one on the top left went for anywhere from $1500-$8000!

I just want to find out if I pegged the coin right and how the grading process works.

pandrews · February 5, 2006 1:05PM

is it a carson city dollar? i think they bring a premium..

zef204 · February 5, 2006 1:11PM

I think. it says "CC" on the back. I have no idea and that is probabky why those guys would laugh at us.

Like when some guy thinks he got a million dollar find of cards and it ain't worth crap. Because it is all 50's cards that are beat to hell.

pandrews · February 5, 2006 1:15PM

<< I think. it says "CC" on the back. >>

that coin belongs to coincop, and he's be over to arrest you shortly..

stevek · February 5, 2006 1:20PM

Link to silver dollar prices

You've got a winner with the 1889cc which means it was minted in Carson City. On a coin grading scale I would grade it as Good condition. My coin collecting has been dormant for awhile so I'm not sure of the value.

coincop · February 5, 2006 1:46PM

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<< I think. it says "CC" on the back. >>

that coin belongs to coincop, and he's be over to arrest you shortly.. >>

That's right, buddy. I carved my inititals in all my coins back in the 1800's so I would know when no gooders like you stole'em.

bsfastball · February 5, 2006 1:53PM

I used to do coins... fomr what I remember, the 1921's you have arent worth a whole lot, probably between $15-25 for the ones you have. The 1901-O used to be a rare coin until there was a find sometime in the 80's, but i think that coin might still be $25-50 in the condition you've got it. The 1889-CC is definitely the most valuable of the four, and might be close to $100 if it is one of the rarer CC dates (i can't remember if 1889 was one of them). If not, I'd guess between $35-75 for that one.

stevek · February 5, 2006 4:24PM

<< 

<< 

<< I think. it says "CC" on the back. >>

that coin belongs to coincop, and he's be over to arrest you shortly.. >>

That's right, buddy. I carved my inititals in all my coins back in the 1800's so I would know when no gooders like you stole'em.

>>

OH GREAT!! An open forum ass hole here to ruin our forum!!!

stevek · February 5, 2006 5:54PM

LINK

Coinhusker1 · February 5, 2006 6:54PM

The 1889-CC looks like a VF-30 with nice, original surfaces.

Worth about $1,800 to $2,000, based on recent auction results.

JDouglas · February 5, 2006 8:20PM

The coin is low end VF range, definitely not a 30 as previously suggested, but a 20 would be more in line, pushing a 25 on a good day. This is a key-date coin and worth more than $1,000. The mintmark looks right, but for you to gain the most out of this, certification to either PCGS, NGC, or ANACS(the three reputable firms, don't go with any other service) is an absolute must. I haven't renewed my account with either service, but perhaps someone here could submit the coin for you.

WinPitcher · February 5, 2006 9:40PM

That CC looks like it is a vg coin to me at best. I agree it should be slabbed.

Steve

edit to add:

do not dip it or clean it in any way. leave it alone.

stevek · February 5, 2006 11:34PM

<<< The 1889-CC looks like a VF-30 with nice, original surfaces. >>>

Steve might have it right, it could be a VG, but I think it does have some "nasty" looking edge marks on the reverse, maybe they're not as bad as I think, but in any event Steve is absolutely right about the cleaning - DON'T clean it - it doesn't look like it's been cleaned. The 1921's were definitely cleaned and the 1901 I'm not sure - might have been cleaned. For sure that 1889cc is worth grading.

zef204 · February 5, 2006 11:54PM

Thanks for all the responses and I figured cleaning it would be a bad idea. Is there a best place to get it certified?

SDSportsFan · February 6, 2006 3:22AM

<< Thanks for all the responses and I figured cleaning it would be a bad idea. Is there a best place to get it certified? >>

Jordan,

I'd go with PCGS if I were you. In fact, I have my own 1889cc Morgan at PCGS right now...I'm expecting it to get an EF-45

Steve

Coinhusker1 · February 6, 2006 3:22AM

It's at least a VF-25. Look at the pics on closed Heritage auctions -- it looks closer to VF-30 to me.

I would recommended having PCGS slab it -- should make it more saleable.

originalisbest · February 6, 2006 3:46AM

zef, I do both. Your 1889-cc is definitely the best of the lot and, if it remains untouched and you can get it slabbed by PCGS (which would be the most saleable choice) you should go with that option. I say "if" because there are many counterfeits/added mintmark pieces out there; however I don't see anything immediately "wrong" with your piece, from the scan. It easily has enough detail to be well-worth the grading fee - even if well-worn, it would be worth the fee. A guarantee of authenticity is the main thing you'd get from PCGS for this piece, followed by technical grade.

Depending on your location, and if you'd rather not join the PCGS club to get it graded, there are many authorized coin dealers who can handle the submission to PCGS for you. IMO, the other three coin you've shown, basically are worth junk silver dollar price (actually, the lower right '21 is a decent coin, but very common, with a touch of wear.) - just goes to show, you never know what you'll turn up. I once found a nice original 1893-CC in amongst an old lady's otherwise (typical) junky lot of '21 Morgans. If only it had been a nice '93-S.

Whatever you do, trust your stated instincts and avoid "improving" the coin in any way - don't erase on it, rub it, rinse it in water, etc. Leave it just as is.

For those card folks who're neophytes to coins, "improving" one (no matter how well-intentioned you might be) usually works out to the equivalent of say, taking a nice EX-MT Mantle card and making it "gem mint" by trimming off the top and bottom borders with an xacto.... after all - doesn't it look nicer now?

WinPitcher · February 6, 2006 4:08AM

It's at least a VF-25. Look at the pics on closed Heritage auctions -- it looks closer to VF-30 to me.

Too much wear on the reverse breast for a VF coin, and above the ear on the obverse is worn too. Add the nicks on the cheek and you have a VG IMO.

in any event send it in and see what you get.

It is a nice coin

Steve

originalisbest · February 6, 2006 4:43AM

Ya never know winpitcher - split the diff and we could guess it might get an F-15. To me that'd be conservative; as of late (IMO) I've seen all the grading services lean towards the generous side with grading the keys.

In any case, for zef it's kind of academic - I do think he needs to have it graded for the guarantee of authenticity, which will assure that interested parties will pony up the $$$ for it, should he wish to sell. The main appeal to me is the piece's originality, which a smart buyer will appreciate regardless of the slab label grade. Also, I can't tell if on the scan or on the coin itself, but there appears to be a light facial scratch which may limit the grade - nothing severe enough to keep it from slabbing, though.

originalisbest · February 6, 2006 4:51AM

BTW Winpitcher - outstanding Mars Attacks cards!! Really cool set.

packCollector · February 6, 2006 4:59AM

zef , get it graded by pcgs but the problem is you need at least 7 coins that are worth it to make the membership worthwhile. I joined last week to submit a couple key coins that someone asked me to sell. it is $30 each to grade but you need a membership. if you join at platinum, you get 8 submissions for 200 so that looked like the best way to go . otherwise i would try to find someone to submit it for you , as far as condition I have no idea which is why I sent in the ones that I had but they looked pretty good on the condition side. I had 5 good coins and i ended up sending in 3 other coins that were not worth it because I had to submit 8.

WinPitcher · February 6, 2006 5:46AM

Thanks for the compliment. (mars attacks)

I could see that coin getting the Fine 12 (or whatever they use nowadays) but certaintly not a VF coin.

I too am thinking about getting a few coins slabbed.

I collect mainly Buffalo's I have a 3 legged in AU/BU and a 14/3 in some sort of MS cond. ( prolly AU55) but Im in for AU money so I don't care. Its the strike Im worried about.

I have a few CC dollars myself in low grade

and a 78 cc in BU which has toned beautifully over the years.

Steve

originalisbest · February 6, 2006 6:33AM

Is your 3 legger slabbed? Always a traditional favorite.

If we keep talking about coins, though, it could ruin the cardboard aura. Well.... I guess as long as it stays in this thread.

WinPitcher · February 6, 2006 6:41AM

No it isn't. that is one Im thinking of slabbing. I p/u about 20 years ago for 400.00. from Gobrecht numismatics.

Steve

Coinhusker1 · February 6, 2006 6:41AM

<< It's at least a VF-25. Look at the pics on closed Heritage auctions -- it looks closer to VF-30 to me.

Too much wear on the reverse breast for a VF coin, and above the ear on the obverse is worn too. Add the nicks on the cheek and you have a VG IMO.

in any event send it in and see what you get.

It is a nice coin

Steve >>

NFW that is a VG. I'll pay you F money for all your key VG Morgans that look like that.

WinPitcher · February 6, 2006 6:49AM

NFW that is a VG. I'll pay you F money for all your key VG Morgans that look like that.

Coin with all due respect you have an opinion on that coin and I do. Please do not insult my intelligence with the old "ill buy all the VG coins at F money BS to me.

You can think what you want about the freaking coin.

Steve

edit to add:

did you happen to see that gashes on the ear and just off of it? and if you did not notice i said it quite possibly it was fine. BUT IT AINT VF IMO NFW

and we can't even see the damn rim.

7. Choice Very Fine (VF-30)

Light even wear on the surface and highest parts of the design but most major features and the lettering are sharp.

8. Very Fine (VF-20)

Minor features such as some of the finer hair detail, feathers, etc. will be moderately worn. Shows moderate wear on high points of design. All major details are clear.

Moderate to considerable even wear over most features and the lettering. A lot of the details are worn through but you can still see a good deal of the design. 10. Very Good (VG-8)

Any of you here also coin guys?

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