Ripken F**k Face "Error" card ???

TripleCrown

I have heard so many stories about this card being genuine or not, and about whether or not it was a true "error" card. I'm very surprised to see a graded version of it with "FF Error" right there in PSA's description. So does this confirm it being a real card, not a hoax, and a true error card?

Ebay item #8760663887

WinPitcher

yep

i think that their are 5 variations too.

the white out version being the scarce one.

crapola if you ask me.


Steve

qualitycards

TC - It was always a real card.
It wasn't on Billy Ripken's bat but someone as a goof did it at the Fleer plant.
Fleer tried to cover it up and made other variations by whiting it out and scribbling it out.
This was a big deal in '89 and prices soared on the card and unopened material,
now its just a novelty.
But its not a hoax after the fact that someone took a bunch and superimposed the F**K FACE
on the card, I saw many being pulled from packs at my store in '89...jay

RobBobGolf

I remember in 1990 the flea market dealers had tons of the FF error cards. They were going for 5-10 bucks a piece, and you could buy about as many as you wanted.

goose3

I remember some SanDiego Chicken card being all the rage around that time as well.

anyone know what that card was from?

qualitycards

GOOSE - '82 Donruss...jay

qualitycards

goose3

YES!!

I ought to get one for the hell of it.


what do they go for now? probably less than they did back then I'm guessing.

gaspipe26

I was doing a show in Danbury CT the week it hit. I had 10 cases of the stuff and was mobbed. Sold the whole thing box by box for over $250 per box. Bought a Cadillac with the money.

gemint

<< <i>I was doing a show in Danbury CT the week it hit. I had 10 cases of the stuff and was mobbed. Sold the whole thing box by box for over $250 per box. Bought a Cadillac with the money. >>



That's like selling a dot com stock during the late 90s! I remember waiting at the card store for new shipments of cello boxes to arrive. I gladly paid $100+ per box and still have 8 sets of the stuff.

It was shortly thereafter that I focused my collection solely on vintage cards. I haven't bought a modern set since.

gaspipe26

It was a Friday night , Sat Sun show at Danbury Fair Mall. Didnt set up Friday night as I had to truck in from NJ. Arrived Sat morning and the dealers who knew me asked if I had the stuff and I remember asking "why"? Had 2 cases with me, sold them in 30 min. Sent the wife home to get the other 8 cases. They lasted 2 hrs on Sunday.

ArnyVee

I remember walking through a mall sportscard show with dealers selling those things for $100 each! This was about a month after it hit....the dealers weren't just asking $100, folks were actually paying that! I would just shake my head and keep moving as I picked up additional boxes of '89 Upper Deck instead.

gmoneystyles

hahahahaha Chicken

And just so you know, there is still a very real and active bunch of collectors (my cousin being one) who still go after the Error card and its MANY variations. They still go for quite a bit. The proper term for the card is as a "RICK FACE" card.

TO

It's real. Pulled a few out of wax boxes years ago. Think I paid too much for those boxes??

RedHeart54

<< <i>I ought to get one for the hell of it. >>



There were also Chicken cards in 1983 AND 1984 Donruss.

Got all of mine signed!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

With over 15 versions of the cad found so far it seems to be an intentional error. Many companies lost $$ in 88 and was looking for a way to improve. Know one guy who knew sompeople in UD and said they intentionally made errors in 89 and he helped get the word out on them starting at a show. ?? The FF is not rare by any means. Rick face is a term Beckett coined in 1989 to keep mag kid friendly. There is a article I have from 1990 that a widely known E/V collector wrote and thought they wrote the FF on picture used for the card. Other sources says teammates admitted to doing it. Over 15 versions and they whiteout is expensive and easy to alter but there is actually more rare versions. I cannot be specific as they can be made by hand with ease. And I am not referring to the saw cuts-which was made on over 5 versions with the cut not meant to hide word but to mark card for graders to pull from line. Cut has different widths/placement and lengths. PM me for info of if you have rare versions,showing on unopened or odd mistakes of the card. You can also check out ebay Bill Ripken groups or search Bill Ripken user names in ebay to find me or my good friend. Happy hunting

zanesdad

I have some variations showing on unopened rack packs. Not sure if they are rare or not. Don't know how to PM.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

email me vandi4@aol.com

ajw

<< <i>With over 15 versions of the cad found so far it seems to be an intentional error. Many companies lost $$ in 88 and was looking for a way to improve. Know one guy who knew sompeople in UD and said they intentionally made errors in 89 and he helped get the word out on them starting at a show. ?? The FF is not rare by any means. Rick face is a term Beckett coined in 1989 to keep mag kid friendly. There is a article I have from 1990 that a widely known E/V collector wrote and thought they wrote the FF on picture used for the card. Other sources says teammates admitted to doing it. Over 15 versions and they whiteout is expensive and easy to alter but there is actually more rare versions. I cannot be specific as they can be made by hand with ease. And I am not referring to the saw cuts-which was made on over 5 versions with the cut not meant to hide word but to mark card for graders to pull from line. Cut has different widths/placement and lengths. PM me for info of if you have rare versions,showing on unopened or odd mistakes of the card. You can also check out ebay Bill Ripken groups or search Bill Ripken user names in ebay to find me or my good friend. Happy hunting >>



It sounds like you are clearly an advanced collector of these variations. I would love it (and I'm sure others would, as well) if you could post scans of the different variations in your collection. It'd be even better if you could give us a brief description, and maybe let us know which ones are more valuable than the others.

Thanks for the education!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

Hello I tried to add scans on another post and it kept telling me the file size was too big. I have pics on my ebay groups- 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken and 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken 2. There is also info there on what magazines had articles on the card. My ebay about me page has a list of versions and a little info as well. User name -1989_Fleer_Bill_Ripken_Collector. My goog friend has a about me page as well, user name-Bill_Ripken_Error_Master. There are many more versions I as aware of but only post info on versions I have in hand. I created enough competition for myself as it is. The rareset in hand versions are whiteout,Double Die FF,DDie FF Saw Cut,Airbrush,Airbrush Saw Cut. The three "common" scribbles are relatively the same in value as well as the different Black Boxes. Round/Straight/Glossy. Saw Cuts were made on over 5 versions with the FF being most common.-Donovan