So I gambled on a dot-sized auction pic. What is it?

coinpictures

Another wonderful Ebay dot claiming to be a picture, but it looks like it has potential (I *never* see countermarked issues in high grade). Cost me $16. Unfortunately I can't find it in Krause.

Auction title is "BRAZIL 1822-R COUNTERSTAMP 20 REIS NEAR MINT!!"

Only problem is that Krause does not list any 19th-century coins as hosts for this countermark type, only 18th-century. Whatever it is, the host looks like it may be XF/AU.

Could be a gem... could be a POS.

Ideas?

newsman

Could be a counterfeit. There are lots of counterfeit countermarks out there.

Edited to add: Without looking at my Krause to confirm, I'm highly doubtful of its authenticity. Brazil became independent in 1822. They wouldn't have kept using the colonial countermarks on coins after that.

coinpictures

I thought that might be a possibility. Not too worried though, as this is a seller I regularly do business with...

farthing

I wish you luck with that one!

The seller is the same one that sold me 4 counterfeit British crowns. Of course he did not list them as counterfeit. He sold quite a number of those 4 "coin" sets to unsuspecting buyers.

coinpictures

<< <i>I wish you luck with that one!

The seller is the same one that sold me 4 counterfeit British crowns. Of course he did not list them as counterfeit. He sold quite a number of those 4 "coin" sets to unsuspecting buyers. >>



Were you able to return them? How was the communication? I've returned merchandise to Toby in the past because I thought coins were misdescribed, overgraded, etc. Never a problem...

farthing

Never tried to return them. I know that several members here collect counterfeit coins for educational purposes so I sent them out free of charge.