Set Idea

andrewlaw

What do you all think about a #1 Pick Overall Rookie Football Set?

It has a nice mix...for example(to name a few)

HOF'ers - John Elway, Terry Bradshaw, Paul Hornung
Semi-Stars - Steve Bartkowski, Ed Tool Tall Jones, Tommy Nobis
Busts - Walt Patulski, Lawrence Elkins, Jim Grabowski

thoughts? positive or negative let's hear them...


-andrewlaw-

wolfbear

I like it ...

BearCollector

I also like it, as I like anything that combines high end and obscure items. Tracking down the latter is often a work of great fun, and should keep you busy enough.

brianwintersfan

Cool idea!

ArnyVee

That's definitely a cool idea!

qualitycards

I think its a great idea as well.
Its a great theme, like Football HOFers or 500 Home Run hitters or Boston Celtic champions...jay

fsjeter

<<Busts - Walt Patulski, Lawrence Elkins, Jim Grabowski>>

Jeff George.

At any rate, it is a good idea!

Scott

Edited to add: Here is your checklist (good luck finding cards for the early guys):

All-Time No. 1 Draft Picks
Year Player, Pos. School Team Years Played Pro Bowls
1936 Jay Berwanger, hb Chicago Philadelphia DNP -
1937 Sam Francis, fb Nebraska Philadelphia 4 0
1938 Corbett Davis, fb Indiana Clev. Rams DNP -
1939 Ki Aldrich, c Texas Christrian Chi. Cardinals 7 2
1940 George Cafego, hb Tennessee Chi. Cardinals 4 0
1941 Tom Harmon, hb Michigan Chi. Bears 2 0
1942 *Bill Dudley, hb Virginia Pittsburgh 9 3
1943 Frank Sinkwich, hb Georgia Detroit 4 0
1944 Angelo Bertelli, qb Notre Dame Boston Yanks 3 0
1945 *Charley Trippi, hb Georgia Chi. Cardinals 9 2
1946 Frank Dancewicz, qb Notre Dame Boston 3 0
1947 Bob Fenimore, hb Oklahoma State Chicago 1 0
1948 Harry Gilmer, qb Alabama Washington 2 0
1949 *Chuck Bednarik, c/lb Pennsylvania Philadelphia 12 8
1950 Leon Hart, e Notre Dame Detroit 8 1
1951 Kyle Rote, hb SMU N.Y. Giants 11 4
1952 Bill Wade, qb Vanderbilt L.A. Rams 13 2
1953 Harry Babc@ck, e Georgia San Francisco 3 3
1954 Bobby Garrett, qb Stanford Cleveland 1 0
1955 George Shaw, qb Oregon Baltimore 8 0
1956 Gary Glick, db Colorado A&M Pittsburgh 7 0
1957 *Paul Hornung, hb Notre Dame Green Bay 9 2
1958 King Hill, qb Rice Chi. Cardinals 12 0
1959 Randy Duncan, qb Iowa Green Bay 1 0
1960 Billy Cannon, rb Lousiana State Los Angeles 11 2
1961 Tommy Mason, rb Tulane Minnesota (N) 11 3
1961 Ken Rice, g Auburn Buffalo (A) 6 1
1962 Ernie Davis, rb Syracuse Washington (N) DNP -
1962 Roman Gabriel, qb N. Carolina State Oakland (A) 16 4
1963 Terry Baker, qb Oregon State L.A. Rams (N) 3 0
1963 *Buck Buchanan, dt Grambling Kansas City (A) 13 8
1964 Dave Parks, wr Texas Tech San Francisco (N) 10 3
1964 Jack Concannon, qb Boston College Bos. Patriots (A) 10 0
1965 T. Frederickson, rb Auburn N.Y. Giants (N) 6 1
1965 Lawrence Elkins, wr Baylor Houston (A) 2 0
1966 Tommy Nobis, lb Texas Atlanta (N) 11 5
1966 Jim Grabowski, rb Illinois Miami (A) 6 0
1967 Bubba Smith, de Michigan State Baltimore 9 2
1968 *Ron Yary, ot Southern Cal. Minnesota 15 7
1969 *O.J. Simpson, rb Southern Cal. Buffalo 11 6
1970 *Terry Bradshaw, qb Louisana Tech Pittsburgh 14 3
1971 Jim Plunkett, qb Stanford New England 15 0
1972 Walt Patulski, dt Notre Dame Buffalo 5 0
1973 John Matuszak, de Tampa Houston 9 0
1974 Ed 'Too Tall' Jones, de Tennessee State Dallas 15 3
1975 Steve Bartkowski, qb California Atlanta 12 2
1976 *Lee Roy Selmon, de Oklahoma Tampa Bay 9 6
1977 Ricky Bell, rb Southern Cal Tampa Bay 6 0
1978 *Earl Campbell, rb Texas Houston 8 5
1979 Tom Cousineau, lb Ohio State Buffalo 6 0
1980 Billy Sims, rb Oklahoma Detroit 5 3
1981 George Rogers, rb South Carolina New Orleans 7 2
1982 Kenneth Sims, dt Texas New England 8 0
1983 *John Elway, qb Stanford Baltimore 16 10
1984 Irving Fryar, wr Nebraska New England 15 5
1985 Bruce Smith, de Virginia Tech Buffalo 18 11
1986 Bo Jackson, rb Auburn Tampa Bay 4 1
1987 Vinny Testaverde, qb Miami, (Fla.) Tampa Bay 19 2
1988 Aundray Bruce, lb Auburn Atlanta 11 0
1989 Troy Aikman, qb UCLA Dallas 12 6
1990 Jeff George, qb Illinois Indianapolis 13 0
1991 Russell Maryland, dt Miami, (Fla.) Dallas 10 1
1992 Steve Emtman, dt Washington Indianapolis 8 0
1993 Drew Bledsoe, qb Washington State New England 13 4
1994 Dan Wilkinson, dt Ohio State Cincinnati 12 0
1995 Ki-Jana Carter, rb Penn State Cincinnati 8 0
1996 Keyshawn Johnson, wr Southern Cal. N.Y. Jets 10 4
1997 Orlando Pace, ot Ohio State St. Louis Rams 9 7
1998 Peyton Manning, qb Tennessee Indianapolis 8 6
1999 Tim Couch, qb Kentucky Cleveland 6 0
2000 Courtney Brown, de Penn State Cleveland 6 0
2001 Michael Vick, qb Virginia Tech Atlanta 5 3
2002 David Carr, qb Fresno State Houston 4 0
2003 Carson Palmer, qb Southern Cal. Cincinnati 3 1
2004 Eli Manning, qb Mississippi San Diego 2 0
2005 Alex Smith, qb Utah San Francisco 1 0
* Member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame

JasP24

This was a set idea I kicked around as well..One of the issues I had was AFL/NFL when there were TWO #1 picks during those years...I decided against requesting the set because I re-focused my collecting habits towards only a few specific sets.

A few other sets I've thought about are:
First Ballot HOFers
NFL Players with 6 or more Pro Bowls
NFL MVPs

If it's something YOU want to collect, I say request it..If others are interested they will jump on board...I was the originator of the Team of the Decade sets, which now have quite a few collectors chasing them...

Best of luck,
Jason

andrewlaw

ok I need help with the modern cards(post-1989, especially 1998+)...I have really no idea how to pick, for example, which Alex Smith or Eli Manning card to choose...I would think it needs to be the most valuable rookie card that isn't a jersey or signature card, but I really don't know...

Any suggestions or guidelines to picking the rookie cards?



andrewlaw

JasP24

The guidelines used in MOST of the football key card sets(I dont know what happened with the Heisman Set) and the HOF RC set is the most valuable mainstream regular issue card. We excluded college cards, odd balls, inserts, parallels, jerseys and autos...

After the year 2000, I have no idea which rookie cards you would need (and I dont own any cards after 2000). It would probably take some research on your part to figure out which cards belong...Anything from 2000 or earlier there is typically a clear cut card, but beginning in 2001,it gets real blurry with all the jerseys, gold parallels, etc...

Good luck,
Jason

jradke4

As for which cards to include. If the set is weighted then you have to pick the cards. If its unweighted then any RC will do. If you look at the NFL HOFer Auto set any auto card of a HOFer will work.