WTF is up with these cards?

Stingray · January 28, 2006 1:44AM

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Checking on 84s on Ebay and came across this. How could have PSA messed up this bad???

Stingray

lawnmowerman · January 28, 2006 1:46AM

Wow! Thats freaky. Whats worse Psa or the guy thats selling them?

Matt

Stingray · January 28, 2006 1:50AM

I know that 4SC corners does not give a description on their cards, but in this case there needs to be some type of explanation. I was wondering why they have a price of $49.95 on the cards?

Stingray

rlankhaar · January 28, 2006 2:18AM

4SC still has time to change the auction to a "PSA Error 1/1" or some other garbage like that. Kind of like a mild version of the whole T206 Honus/Heine Wagner mislabel.

julen23 · January 28, 2006 2:19AM

yea, that is somewhat disturbing....

hopefully the yacht parties and naked fiestas around balboa island are not preventing quality control from sinking into perilious depths?

Julen

FYS · January 28, 2006 10:18AM

<< Wow! Thats freaky. Whats worse Psa or the guy thats selling them?

Matt >>

I love when sellers are critisized for PSA's ineptitude. 4SC propably pays a teenager minimum wage to post cards for their auctions and they are supposed to put what is labeled on the cards. Doesn't PSA have 3 stages of quality control to confirm the labeling and grade? Everyone will defend it is just a label error, but the truth is if the F-UP as many lables as we see posted on the boards, how many cards are misgraded?

phreakydancin · January 28, 2006 10:29AM

<< I love when sellers are critisized for PSA's ineptitude. 4SC propably pays a teenager minimum wage to post cards for their auctions and they are supposed to put what is labeled on the cards. Doesn't PSA have 3 stages of quality control to confirm the labeling and grade? Everyone will defend it is just a label error, but the truth is if the F-UP as many lables as we see posted on the boards, how many cards are misgraded? >>

FYS, it's funny how you the only time you ever post on this forum is when you have something negative to say about PSA. As a percentage of the number of cards they grade, mistakes like this are a tiny drop in the well. Get over yourself. Why wasn't a single person at 4SC able to identify the errors and send them back to PSA to have them relabeled free of charge? Quit trying to make PSA out to be the bad guy at every opportunity.

lawnmowerman · January 28, 2006 10:39AM

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<< Wow! Thats freaky. Whats worse Psa or the guy thats selling them?

Matt >>

I love when sellers are critisized for PSA's ineptitude. 4SC propably pays a teenager minimum wage to post cards for their auctions and they are supposed to put what is labeled on the cards. >>

Doesnt Matter! Whether its mr 4sc or one of his employees its still a reflection on the owner. Look, I own a commercial lawn business, if one of my employees doesnt do a job up to par who do you think the customer is going to call? Me, because I am the owner and its my responsibilty to the customer to get the job done right. If this card is not correctly listed it goes back to the seller for not catching it or just not listing it as such. Sure PSA messed up but so did the seller.

Matt

Stone193 · January 28, 2006 11:11AM

Well, one thing's for sure...

I wouldn't want them labelling my urine sample!

FYS · January 28, 2006 11:23AM

<< Quit trying to make PSA out to be the bad guy at every opportunity. >>

PD,

I do not hide the fact that I am an SGC consumer. I have the same ID on the SGC, PSA, 54 and Beckett boards. I actually buy PSA cards to cross over to SGC. So I do have faith in the brand. I also enjoy these PSA boards because they are lively (much more than SGC) and there are many knowledgable posters for post war cards. I have never started a negative thread about PSA on this board, nor do I have to personally do anything to make PSA look bad. Enough of the PSA faithfull repeatably post threads on this board regarding poor customer service, inconsistent grades, mislabling, preferential treatment to big submitters, card switching, inability to back mistakes and several other issues. When these posts happen, I do sometimes chime in with my usual one of two answers:

1. Don't blame the dealers so much! It does amaze me that the PSA faithfull hold PSA themselves to very little responsibility. It is always pushed back to the dealer as it being there issue to resolve quietly with PSA. I see both sides of the coin, but it does surprise me that there is not more of an outcry at PSA. Collectors have so little tolerance for dealer mistakes, but it is very much acceptable for PSA because the have such a heavy workload. Don't you think 4SC and others have a heavy workload and high throughput.
2. I can not believe you do not try SGC, GAI or Beckett! For all the complaints, It boggles my mind why some people do not get fed up and switch. Beckett leads modern and SGC leads pre war. Post war/pre-modern is PSA's turf no doubt. I do not think how any rational person that has experienced some of the crap they post about could not sit back and say, wow, I should give someone else a shot.

As I said, I enjoy the boards. I will try to increase my percentage of posts towards the positive side e.g. what was my first set I collected, my latest box break, my lastest pick up, what card I would last part with, what card I wish I never sold etc. I will also try to refrain or at least somewhat limit the; don't blame the dealer and I can not believe you do not try someone else comments.

Starting with that trend, I 100% agreed with a recent DaBigHurt post. That is a pretty big step for an SGC collector.

phreakydancin · January 28, 2006 11:38AM

<< Don't you think 4SC and others have a heavy workload and high throughput. >>

Absolutely, but nothing compared to the volume that PSA is doing. For the number of cards that they grade, I think the number of mistakes that are pointed out are remarkably low.

<< I can not believe you do not try SGC, GAI or Beckett! For all the complaints, It boggles my mind why some people do not get fed up and switch. Beckett leads modern and SGC leads pre war. Post war/pre-modern is PSA's turf no doubt. I do not think how any rational person that has experienced some of the crap they post about could not sit back and say, wow, I should give someone else a shot. >>

I own cards in slabs from all four major grading companies. I even have a set on the SGC Registry. I am a skeptic by nature; I always try to balance various viewpoints before I make up my mind about anything. I know you are a regular on the SGC boards, which I read occasionally but rarely contribute to. It just seems that when you come over hear to voice an opinion, you seem to have an agenda.

<< As I said, I enjoy the boards. I will try to increase my percentage of posts towards the positive side e.g. what was my first set I collected, my latest box break, my lastest pick up, what card I would last part with, what card I wish I never sold etc. I will also try to refrain or at least somewhat limit the; don't blame the dealer and I can not believe you do not try someone else comments. >>

You are obviously a knowledgable collector. I look forward to you sharing your collecting experiences exclusive of "The Great Grading Debate"

<< Starting with that trend, I 100% agreed with a recent DaBigHurt post. That is a pretty big step for an SGC collector. >>

Agreed. Huge!

FYS · January 28, 2006 11:58AM

<< I own cards in slabs from all four major grading companies. I even have a set on the SGC Registry. >>

Let me know when you want to dump that Esso Esposito.

phreakydancin · January 29, 2006 12:22AM

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<< I own cards in slabs from all four major grading companies. I even have a set on the SGC Registry. >>

Let me know when you want to dump that Esso Esposito. >>

Feel free to hit me up once you see that set at 100%, but don't hold your breath; I'm kinda stalled on that set until I come across a fresh stash of unopened packs.

WTF is up with these cards?

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