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WHY the Drop in SMR Price for PSA 10 Hockey ??

I am a fairly active buyer of 1980's hockey cards and have been looking for a PSA 10 OPC #67 Yzerman for quite a while. None have sold on eBay in the past six months, but the SMR falls from $1600 to $900. What does PSA base its numbers on anyway, BGS sales???? If anyone has a PSA 10 #67 for sale at $900 ( or ever a PSA 9 for the SMR of $150, since I have not seen one sell below $210 yet) please let me know!
My focus, 1970 Topps Baseball Raw and Graded, pre 1989 PSA Hockey and 1933 INDIAN GUM ! Yikes!!

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  • Price dropping on PSA 10 in the SMR.....is that a bad thing?
  • Price dropping on PSA 10 in the SMR.....is that a bad thing? ................................ Not if you are a buyer, however, when it a price guide and its changes have nothing to do with the market, what good is it!
    My focus, 1970 Topps Baseball Raw and Graded, pre 1989 PSA Hockey and 1933 INDIAN GUM ! Yikes!!
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hockey has been slow. I haven't shopped it in a while and I know a lot of people in the hobby aren't chasing hockey anymore.

    As for Yzerman, national demand for his card has dropped.
    Mike
  • raym8raym8 Posts: 150 ✭✭✭
    I still think that if an OPC Yzerman PSA 10 pops up on ebay anytime in the near future, it would sell for close to $2000 if not more. It has been well over a year that one has surfaced either on ebay or in any of the major auction houses.
  • The sales for hockey cards are brisk in Canada. I can attest to that. Strange though, I find that generally hockey collectors are more into the new insert cards than solid, graded rookies. That's my experience in Canada anyway.
  • From 1988-1994 I ripped over 4 cases of 1984 OPC hockey....one was a sealed case...the rest were boxes bought at shows (yup...$75-$100 a box back then..lol)

    I'll tell you what...a PSA 9 Yzerman is tough due to the cuts and centering....but a PSA 10...

    I'm with you...WELL undervalued!! That's a $1500-$2000 card all day long!!

    BUT Hockey is unappreciated....my 85-86 Topps Set is #1 in the Registry....and there isn't a distant #2...these cards are tough to get 9's and 10's on...but I know that someday people will wake up and see what they have missed..

    Let's see what happens then!!??!!

    All you Canadians...who's got the mint 85-86 Topps commons??? lol
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you think the BGS 9.5 OPC Yzerman's have hurt the PSA 10s? I've seen the BGS 9.5 versions go for less than $1000.

    Plus PSA 10 mid-80s OPC seem to be given at random. I pulled a PSA 10 on a OPC Scott Stevens RC, that totally surprised me. At that time, that made it 1 of 2 pop. I threw into a submission just to get to the minimum for the grading special. I didn't expect more than an 8 due to the cut. I had a 1985 OPC Al MacInnis and 1988 OPC Hull that I thought were much better and they only pulled a 9.
    Mike
  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    As drops go in the SMR $700 is very steep, let alone for a rookie Yzerman PSA 10. Makes me wonder if it's a typo. There are no mainstream cards in the '80s tougher than '80s OPC hockey to get in PSA 9 or 10.

    Call me a Soprano but if any of the SMR writers have a stranglehold on all the $900 PSA 10 OPC Yzerman rookies, I'd like a little piece of that action. Bada Bing!
  • As drops go in the SMR $700 is very steep, let alone for a rookie Yzerman PSA 10. Makes me wonder if it's a typo. There are no mainstream cards in the '80s tougher than '80s OPC hockey to get in PSA 9 or 10.
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    I doubt it was a typo, but rather that PSA pays little attention to its published SMR's! Another fairly recent example was a 1989 Sakic #113 Topps rookie sold on eBay for over $700 but SMR remains at $150. There was more than 20 bids over $150 on that card (1of1) .
    My focus, 1970 Topps Baseball Raw and Graded, pre 1989 PSA Hockey and 1933 INDIAN GUM ! Yikes!!
  • SMR has many issues

    1954 Topps Hockey is a great example . They have the PSA 8 # 60 Schmidt at $600 SMR there hasn't bean a public sale of that card in that range the last 3 offered in the last few years all sold for $6000 +. They raised the PSA 9's to $525 the lowest public sale in 3 years has been 1900 with most going for $3000 +

    Another more modern example is 1988-89 OPC Joe Niewendyk they dropped the PSA 10 price to $100 there are less than 10 of these graded with 2 ebay sales in the last month of $205 and $119.


    As has been discussed for many years on this board they just havn't put or don't have the resources to do SMR accurately
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe one of the big dealers that advertise in SMR wants to corner the market on PSA 10 OPC hockey. Also Oswald didn't do it.......Castro did.
    Mike
  • The SMR is irrelevant...for example, PSA has a value for a 1966 Orr rookie in PSA 9, but have never graded one according to the pop report.

    If you have a favourite set, I would keep track of pricing myself, that way you can better value your bids.
    The first person in the PSA universe to complete the 1969 OPC
    Hockey set! Always looking to buy, trade or upgrade 1966 Topps to 1969 OPC.
  • Hockey is pretty dead in the Southern California market. It has never been that hot, well not lately, so that wouldn't impact sales much. I expect that "newer" hockey markets are still hurting from the strike. Out of sight, out of mind.
    Running an Ebay store sure takes a lot more time than a person would think!
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The hockey market has always been different. They collecting base is small, but more devoted than any other sport. In the late 90's, I was selling Red Wing cards, even base ones, for close to book. I was able to pick them up at shows in other states for 10-20% and made a nice profit.
    Mike
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