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Okay, lets say 1968 Topps, how many of each card were made??

were all cards printed the same amount of times?? Were there roughly say 10k of each card made? Are there any records of quantity??

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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    10K? how about 10k a day.

    as for the same amt of times.....no some sheets have double prints on them.


    steve
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  • so there is no real measure of rarity other than market value and player performance?


  • << <i>so there is no real measure of rarity other than market value and player performance? >>



    I don't think the rarity is really measureable when you take condition into consideration. I think there are a lot of old cards out there, but not many that are in good condition. The only near measure we have is the PSA population report.
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  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Why is your icon ATM?

    Are you made of money?
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>were all cards printed the same amount of times?? Were there roughly say 10k of each card made? Are there any records of quantity?? >>


    Tex

    I think these are the most guarded secrets akin to the Manhattan Project!

    Back then, not only is there the possibility of single, double and triple prints but short prints as well.

    To complicate the issue - some series were not printed in high number - some say the last series since it was so close to football season that Topps was affraid candy stores would not sell much product.

    And finally, you're talking about surviving 40 yrs. It's hard to say how much of the product is just plain gone forever?

    Let someone go to the New York Times and put in a full page ad paying 20 thousand dollars for every PSA 9 that they can produce and we would have to see what shakes out of the tree!image

    mike
    Mike
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< I work hard for the coins I need and the coins I need prevent me from working hard!!!! >>>

    Cards aren't like coins whereby with coins the exact mintage amounts have been basically kept accurately by the federal government, and is public information readily listed in coin collecting books. Perhaps you already knew that about cards.

    I have read some "estimated" amounts on card production but who knows if they are accurate. "Everybody" always talks about maybe the possibility of a "hoard" of vintage mint cards being uncovered someday - I doubt that very much.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Interesting thread that no one seems to know much about. I asked a similar question about a week ago and got no response.

    I have heard that management at Topps kept almost no records on things like this, which makes it a very difficult thing to answer. That said, there have to be former Topps employees out there who could shed some light on it. Hell, Sy Berger is still alive and doesn't he know the answer to everything about Topps?
    Ron Burgundy

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  • I think i may be more interested in how many sets of each years cards they kept in storage for themselves. I know they had a contest for their 40th aniversary and someone won a complete run of topps baseball cards. I would assume that that wasn't the only complete run of cards that topps had/has.
  • 100,000 of each card might scratch the surface. Just remember on a lot of todays (early 90's) cards, some "rare" inserts were "only" numbered to 20,000 found in odds of 1:20 packs. Thats with a limited market. In the 60's and 70's Topps was all there was, and could be found in every major department store, candy store, 5 and Dime, Mom and Pop local corner store or wherever ANY type of products were sold. There certainly is no "rarity" factor in the number of cards out there. Finding cards that were opened and still remain in "pristine" condition with corner chipping, clarity, centering etc. can be another story, but they are out there....
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why is your icon ATM?

    Are you made of money? >>

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< 100,000 of each card >>>

    I have heard this figure a number of times for cards of the 1960's. Figuring roughly 600 cards to a set, times 100,000 cards equals 60,000,000 cards, at approximately 1 penny each, retail value would equal $600,000. Not a small amount in 1960's dollars so that 100,000 each figure I always considered a possibility.

    You would have to get sales figures for Topps in those years, hopefully broken down by category but if not, a rough good guestimate could maybe be gotten. Don't forget Topps had other sports cards also as well as non-sports cards, and of course other candy and gum sales. Microfilmed New York newspapers in libraries might probably list Topps sales. Topps may have these sales figures somewhere, if not on their website, they might give them out in a phone call. Topps was a private company back then so perhaps these figures actually may not be available.

    If anybody could figure this out it would be Brian (iamthegreatcornholio) - he can figure out almost anything.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If anybody could figure this out it would be Brian (iamthegreatcornholio) - he can figure out almost anything. >>


    College boy!

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    Mike
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