1984 donruss unopened case for sale

julen23

hijacked this from another forum here, but worth sharing

kruk cards

Julen

zef204

I think $175/box is pretty steep. I doubt this will sell.

Stone193

Zef
That's not thru the roof IMO and it is a sealed case.

The thing I don't like is the fact that the box is kind of crushed.



But I'll bet the boxes are OK.

I have known Kruk cards since around 1992 and he's one of the biggest liquidators I have ever seen.

I wouldn't mind opening a couple of boxes tho.

zef204

Me too Stone. I don't know though about the $175, you could be right.

softparade

The per box price does seem high but of course there is the sealed case mark up too. No doubt a gamble
but a very interesting case. If I wasn't getting married in four months I might be stupid enough to grab it.

duner

can you even break even paying that? what could you possibly get in that case that would justify $3500?

brianwintersfan

<< <i>what could you possibly get in that case that would justify $3500? >>



A lot of PSA 10's I guess

softparade

<< <i>can you even break even paying that? what could you possibly get in that case that would justify $3500? >>



Guys who are collecting the set graded or a super raw set would possibly be interested. It boils down to what you mean by "breaking even". To buy this case and grade the nice cards in hopes of making money would be a big gamble. To break the case with the hopes of upgrading your flawless set is a different story. Depends if 3 grand plus is alot of money too you or just a drop in your huge bank account.

ArnyVee

To give you an idea....the last few Don Mattingly rookies in PSA 10 have been fetching about $700 to $850 on eBay.

ctsoxfan

That seems quite high (remember when 1984 Donruss was "so scarce" back in the 80's?) especially for a set with really nothing desirable in it. Still, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone buy it, unopened product is always in demand it seems...

ArnyVee

$175/box is a bit high. But, you are paying the extra (normally around $125-150/box) because of the fact that the product has not been searched. I would've looked into purchasing it but that damage to the case has me concerned that the case has been thrown around a bit and I'd rather not waste a box or two due to damage. That would knock the price/box even higher if you only had 18 good boxes.

julen23

good looking on the box there, kruk is pretty much on the up and up, so i wouldn't believe them selling some bunk product however.

nobody would buy this case for investment purposes!! the probablity of pulling a single psa 10 mattingly is probably remote! why the hell isn't the joe carter RC from this set worth $700??? I have about 50 o/c joe carter cards, this guy in psa 10 (at least to me) is impossible!!!!

Julen

rbdjr1

1984 Donruss #60 Nolan Ryan PSA 10

SMR: $165
Current High Bid: $43 (...with 12 hours to go!)

1984 Donruss #324 Tony Gwynn PSA 10

SMR: $130
Current High Bid: $103 (...with 12 hours to go!)

Out of 20,675 cards graded, 3,122 have graded PSA 10. That's one PSA 10, for every 6.5 graded. How many cards in this case?

rbd

ArnyVee

By the way, that Ryan will more than likely hit the $75-100 range before it's done. The Gwynn's have gone in the same range, so I'm surprised that it's already at $100.

Nearly 11,000 cards in that case if I did my math right.

That's nearly 1700 PSA 10s, right?

rbdjr1

<< <i>By the way, that Ryan will more than likely hit the $75-100 range before it's done. The Gwynn's have gone in the same range, so I'm surprised that it's already at $100.

Nearly 11,000 cards in that case if I did my math right.

That's nearly 1700 PSA 10s, right? >>





<< <i>By the way, that Ryan will more than likely hit the $75-100 range before it's done. The Gwynn's have gone in the same range, so I'm surprised that it's already at $100.

Nearly 11,000 cards in that case if I did my math right.

That's nearly 1700 PSA 10s, right? >>



U most likely did the correct math!

I guess the real question is just how many of those 11,000 1984 Donruss cards (i.e., ....20 wax boxes! i.e., ....720 wax packs!) from that case, are well-centered? have nice smooth surfaces? great edges? razor sharp corners? good color? quality printing? few print marks? etc?, ...cards that may just be worthy enough to send in for a PSA grade?

So, it would seem that one out of every 6.5 1984 Donruss cards receive a PSA 10,

...but what I do not know is how many of those 11,000 cards are worthy enough to be a PSA high end canidate to begin with? ...2500? ...1000? ...500? ...100? ...50?


2500 worthy psa canidates out of those 11,000 cards would equate to: About 385 PSA 10's?
1000 worthy psa canidates out of those 11,000 cards would equate to: About 153 PSA 10's?
500 worthy psa canidates out of those 11,000 cards would equate to: About 77 PSA 10's?
100 worthy psa canidates out of those 11,000 cards would equate to: About 15 PSA 10's?
50 worthy psa canidates out of those 11,000 cards would equate to: About 8 PSA 10's?

edit: THAT IS THE $3500 QUESTION AT HAND???

rbd

RayBShotz

Optimistically, 10% of the cards are centered and flaw free. In my limited experience grading those type of examples my submissions have come back any where from 15% to 40% PSA 10's.
So that's total cards x .10 x (.10-.40 approx)

Need some math on that.

And that doesn't tell you that there are perhaps 100 commons in this set which more routinely come back perfect than most of the other cards.

To get the "money" cards perfect is another question altogether.
A real crapsoot for sure.
RayBShotz

larryallen73

Buy a box or two for FUN (and possible profit) but leave the real gambling to Vegas! I think the odds are better in Vegas! Just my op.

Stone193

<< <i>Buy a box or two for FUN (and possible profit) but leave the real gambling to Vegas! I think the odds are better in Vegas! Just my op. >>


I agree.

Mine is Texas Holdem Larry.

mike